(PRIMAL) Hyjal Trash is...trash (REJECTED)
- Dreadnought101
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(PRIMAL) Hyjal Trash is...trash (REJECTED)
Hyjal spawns 8 waves of trash for you to fight before every boss (except Archimonde). Waves are long and a few waves can wipe your group if you are not paying attention, but overall its fine and well paced...
...for the first time.
If you die to a boss, you have to do all 8 waves again before you can attempt the boss again. Its tedious and drives everyone insane if you wipe, and many of the bosses are quite difficult and we end up wiping on them
Please make it so that once 8 waves are cleared and we wipe on a boss, we can just do 1-2 final waves and go after the boss again, or just go straight for the boss (though I actually like having at least 1 wave as its technically part of the fight in how you setup and conserve mana/buffs then go after the boss)
It sucks, please consider changing it, or people will go insane if Black Temple isn't released soon and they can get the hell out of Hyjal.
...for the first time.
If you die to a boss, you have to do all 8 waves again before you can attempt the boss again. Its tedious and drives everyone insane if you wipe, and many of the bosses are quite difficult and we end up wiping on them
Please make it so that once 8 waves are cleared and we wipe on a boss, we can just do 1-2 final waves and go after the boss again, or just go straight for the boss (though I actually like having at least 1 wave as its technically part of the fight in how you setup and conserve mana/buffs then go after the boss)
It sucks, please consider changing it, or people will go insane if Black Temple isn't released soon and they can get the hell out of Hyjal.
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Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
You mean TBC is trash LULULUULLULUL.
But anyway, sounds reasonable. TW stop forcing people to fight trash 24/7... like we had to in ICC with their everyday 'blizzlike modifications'.
But anyway, sounds reasonable. TW stop forcing people to fight trash 24/7... like we had to in ICC with their everyday 'blizzlike modifications'.
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+1.
The ratio trash/boss time spent during raid can be absolutely horrible in Hyjal when you wipe.
The ratio trash/boss time spent during raid can be absolutely horrible in Hyjal when you wipe.
Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
Oh yeah, Black Temple will totally not drive you nuts.Dreadnought101 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2018 01:55It sucks, please consider changing it, or people will go insane if Black Temple isn't released soon and they can get the hell out of Hyjal.
It's a quick and easy raid with very short run back after a wipe.
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Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
Just buff the bosses to have the combined HP pool from their trash, then extend the enrage timer to the 26 minutes needed (16 for trash, and 10 for boss). This is a gOOd idea i proMise
Also have 1-2 trash items drop from every boss, along with 2 Hearts, and 10-25 marks of illidari
Also have 1-2 trash items drop from every boss, along with 2 Hearts, and 10-25 marks of illidari
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Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
Dont remind me...but there is a difference between long runs and clearing the SAME trash again and againGadoschi wrote: ↑25 Oct 2018 08:46Oh yeah, Black Temple will totally not drive you nuts.Dreadnought101 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2018 01:55It sucks, please consider changing it, or people will go insane if Black Temple isn't released soon and they can get the hell out of Hyjal.
It's a quick and easy raid with very short run back after a wipe.
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Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
+1 I don't care if it's not blizzlike, the trash in hyjal saps all the fun out of it. Nobody likes having to re-do trash over and over, especially in the horde camp where we rely on people getting tactics just right. If we clear a wave and die on the boss, we should be able to spawn the boss.
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Or, ya know, GIT GUDanniefelis wrote: ↑26 Oct 2018 03:56If we clear a wave and die on the boss, we should be able to spawn the boss.
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Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
hohooooo
the ICC trash is the worst, you spend more time clearing it than clearing bosses.
they used to be fun and aoe'able, now it's hell I rather afk than fight them
the ICC trash is the worst, you spend more time clearing it than clearing bosses.
they used to be fun and aoe'able, now it's hell I rather afk than fight them
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Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
Well, you were always known as an extraordinary team player.Arockalypse wrote: ↑02 Jan 2019 02:11they used to be fun and aoe'able, now it's hell I rather afk that fight them
You just let other players in the raid who like clearing trash do it, right? Trash is gonna get cleared, one way or another.
Now, in order for my comment not to get flagged as "flaming" and deleted, I will say this - trash is an essential part of every raid, and even though it's usually nothing but a waste of time, you either suck it up and do it or don't join a raid in the first place.
Having to redo scripted trash waves after every boss wipe is another matter. That is just depressing and completely pointless - it does not contribute to the overall environment of a raid at all.
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Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
You dunno shit 'bout meGadoschi wrote: ↑02 Jan 2019 11:47Well, you were always known as an extraordinary team player.Arockalypse wrote: ↑02 Jan 2019 02:11they used to be fun and aoe'able, now it's hell I rather afk than fight them
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Re: Hyjal Trash is...trash
Rejecting This, Hyjal has trash waves because thats the way it was designed by blizzard. maybe not the favoured choice of design, but thats just how it is. however, i should be doing some trash nerfs in there when i get the time.
Side note: being able to just AOE trash down is boring and having trash that works properly is allmost as important as having the bosses work properly.
Side note: being able to just AOE trash down is boring and having trash that works properly is allmost as important as having the bosses work properly.
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