PvP gear requiring arena

#1 » Post by **adolphjlj123** » 04 Aug 2015 23:12

Can the requirement of arena rating and points be removed from pvp gear? This is vanilla, i would much rather see another way to gate the higher end pvp gear rather than arena being a requirement. This would make BG's much more active and arena would still be used since 100points = 2k honor

#2 » Post by **Rockmaster** » 05 Aug 2015 22:18

I feel the same way but i think it should stay this way until the epic pvp gear gets released.
Then they schould make blue lvl 60gear for honor an epic for arena point and rating

#3 » Post by **Sylaces** » 07 Aug 2015 09:18

i don't like arena so fuck me right ?

what about just let ppl get max gear by doing whatever kind of pvp they like, be it arena bgs or even world pvp, rly hate the old xpacs way of shoving arenas down your throat

inb4 u hate arenaz cuz u bad kek

#4 » Post by **Rockmaster** » 07 Aug 2015 10:00

I am not saying this is the best system.
I don't like arena that much either, but there has to be some kind of system to prevent everyone from getting the epic pvp gear way too easily.

#5 » Post by **Sylaces** » 07 Aug 2015 10:08

Rockmaster wrote:I am not saying this is the best system.
I don't like arena that much either, but there has to be some kind of system to prevent everyone from getting the epic pvp gear way too easily.

no no, i am not saying at all that epic gear should be easy to get, i am saying that all kinds of pvp should be somehow equally rewarding

#6 » Post by **Mozx1337** » 07 Aug 2015 12:47

Sylaces wrote:i don't like arena so fuck me right ?

what about just let ppl get max gear by doing whatever kind of pvp they like, be it arena bgs or even world pvp, rly hate the old xpacs way of shoving arenas down your throat

inb4 u hate arenaz cuz u bad kek

This +1

I'm not a big arena fan and love the old vanilla / bc pvp (and titles). And as this currently is vanilla it makes sence to me that arena isn't a must to get any pvp gear.
I think it's great though that arena is a option and it can bring choice, and hopefully bring some more players to the server.

#7 » Post by **hakimers** » 07 Aug 2015 12:57

I'd stay with arena points AND raiting for epic pvp gear, just don't make it so fucked expensive, so that even people o less than 1500 raiting could get one piece per months at least (right now you need 2200 points per item[on average], which is 9 weeks for less than 1500 raiting). It gives You motivation to accualy get to arena and fill one more [fantastic] aspect of the game brought by wotlk cilent alive.

#8 » Post by **Sylaces** » 08 Aug 2015 03:42

someone has already a proposed system where you get pvp titles based on how many HKs you have (in another thread), now it could just be made so that you get gear depending on them, an example would be

Private/Scout - 100 Honorable Kills
Corporal/Grunt - 500 Honorable Kills
Sergeant/Sergeant - 1000 Honorable Kills
Master Sergeant/Senior Sergeant - 2000 Honorable Kills
Sergeant Major/First Sergeant - 4000 Honorable Kills
Knight/Stone Guard - 5000 Honorable Kills
Knight-Lieutenant/Blood Guard - 6000 Honorable Kills
Knight-Captain/Legionnaire - 10000 Honorable Kills
Knight-Champion/Centurion - 15000 Honorable Kills
Lieutenant Commander/Champion - 25000 Honorable Kills
Commander/Lieutenant General - 40000 Honorable Kills
Marshal/General - 45000 Honorable Kills
Field Marshal/Warlors - 50000 Honorable Kills
Grand Marshal/High Warlord - 75000 Honorable Kills

#9 » Post by **adolphjlj123** » 08 Aug 2015 07:16

that sounds extremely bad. would make bgs just a huge brawl and nobody trying to do any objectives

#10 » Post by **Sylaces** » 08 Aug 2015 09:18

adolphjlj123 wrote:that sounds extremely bad. would make bgs just a huge brawl and nobody trying to do any objectives

kinda like arenas

anyway althrough i belive the system i proposed previously is still good, this would be better but prob require more work

they add 2 new items/currency, "Mark of Honor" and "Medal of Honor"

x1 Mark of Honor costs 75k Honor Points to buy

x1 Medal of Honor costs x20 Mark of Honor

x1 Epic pvp chest costs x20 Medal of Honor, helmet x18, hands x13, etc

some values might be too big or too low but i belive in the end they can balance it very well

#11 » Post by **Sylaces** » 08 Aug 2015 10:16

actually... scrap all that shit, just increase cost and remove rating requirements, then allow honor to be turned into arena points

1000 honor for 10 arena points, sounds good ?

#12 » Post by **.atilla** » 08 Aug 2015 11:33

+1

Since we're at the vanilla stage at this moment I don't like the need to have a specific arena raiting to be able to get the higher PvP gear.. Arenas makes it less vanilla, but it's still nice having it. But for gearing up in PvP, this shouldn't be required. People saying that people only would farm honor in BGs instead of doing objects clearly didn't play vanilla. Same AV could last for days, WSG for quite some time etc.. Just saying!

Introduce arena raiting required for PvP gear in TBC as it should be!

Cleofatra · #13 » Post by **Cleofatra** » 08 Aug 2015 17:18

They could just make the epic PVP gear cost a shitload of honor and it would work out. Even if you like arena you could always turn it in for honor.

#14 » Post by **adolphjlj123** » 09 Aug 2015 02:54

Yeah making it cost a shitload of honor would be a solution, but then there would need to be some sort of currency or conversion system like previous suggestions, since the current 75k cap is relatively easy to obtain.

#15 » Post by **Sylaces** » 09 Aug 2015 05:14

Cleofatra wrote:They could just make the epic PVP gear cost a shitload of honor and it would work out. Even if you like arena you could always turn it in for honor.

i think arena should remain unchanged, they can just add a vendor that sells epic pvp gear for honor, this way ppl that like arena are not forced to do bgs and they can do what they want

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