Holy Paladin PVE guide.
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
The spec which Justice is espousing as his choice for endgame raiding is infact a spec many a retail holy paladin (& I myself on spermik/truewow) used to have while gearing up.
But at ICC level of gear, the spec with Divine Guardian is much more useful due to crit's value being substantially reduced with the Illumination nerf in patch 3.2 while, Divine Guardian is very valuable in terms of raid utility.
As for Improved RF, threat should never be a factor in boss encounters(provided u have semi-decent tanks) unless there is say adds which spawn far away from the tank which needs to be picked up, but even then RF can help out as you can simply stand closer to the tank thereby drawing those adds away from other healers, who I might add are way more squishy than you.
But at ICC level of gear, the spec with Divine Guardian is much more useful due to crit's value being substantially reduced with the Illumination nerf in patch 3.2 while, Divine Guardian is very valuable in terms of raid utility.
As for Improved RF, threat should never be a factor in boss encounters(provided u have semi-decent tanks) unless there is say adds which spawn far away from the tank which needs to be picked up, but even then RF can help out as you can simply stand closer to the tank thereby drawing those adds away from other healers, who I might add are way more squishy than you.
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
divine guardian is so OP that it got removed since cataclysm...
Rascall Retribution/Holy
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
If hpala steals agro from tank with RF on, that tank should stop tanking.
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
to be honest i wouldnt take aura mastery, imo its either a pvp spell or an optional for certain bosses such as heroic LK, ita not otherwise that vital and that 1 point could be used otherwise more productively
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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
I mostly use it at Marrow bonestorm, BQ fly phase, Sindragosa last phase and Lich king fights for the damage reduction only. Yea it's not a must have spell, it depends on what you seek to do with your paladin.
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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
of course, was only sharing mu point of view
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
My problem with Aura Mastery is that if every Paladin has it, it's useless for most of them as they won't have the correct aura.
Why join the winning side if you can change the winner?
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
Its true, Aura Mastery is useless if the paladins in the raid are unable to communicate or have no desire to cooperate with other members & just set aura as fire/forget(if they use it at all).
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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
As a ret I always aura mastery on bone storm for example with retri aura for more damage taken by boss on hit xD
"I write about the power of trying, because I want to be okay with failing. I write about generosity because I battle selfishness. I write about joy because I know sorrow. I write about faith because I almost lost mine, and I know what it is to be broken and in need of redemption. I write about gratitude because I am thankful - for all of it."
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
yeah well
you, me and blue can be among the minority but this guide concerns the majority so... :d
you, me and blue can be among the minority but this guide concerns the majority so... :d
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
Just checked other classes talents and it seems that you would use Improved Concentration Aura only if you respect Arcane Mages.
Also it only takes 1/3 so Mage could use 3/5 Arcane Stability. Using 3/3 on ICA is waste, just need 1/3.
Btw Aura mastery, you mean, boosted pony aura?
Also it only takes 1/3 so Mage could use 3/5 Arcane Stability. Using 3/3 on ICA is waste, just need 1/3.
Btw Aura mastery, you mean, boosted pony aura?
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
tell me why would you use solace as holy paladin? just gofor Talisman of resurgence , intelect > spell power.
Chernoo - lvl 80 MM Hunter (Main Char)
Eviltities - lvl 80 DK Tonk
Cherniggar - lvl 80 UH DK
Chernomoffo - lvl 80 Shadow Priest
Chernokingg - lvl 80 Disc Priest
Chernobull - lvl 80 Boomie/Feral Dps Druid
Chernomoo - lvl 80 Boomie/Resto Druid
Hollyboner - lvl 80 ProtHoly/Ret Paladin
Hollycherno - lvl 80 Prot/Holy Paladin
Belewonnabe - lvl 80 Prot/Ret Paladin
Chernobylus - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Evilsmile - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Onlyforbl - lvl 80 Resto/Ele Shaman
Friedpan - lvl 80 FFB Mage
Chermoo - lvl 80 Fury/Prot Warrior
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Eviltities - lvl 80 DK Tonk
Cherniggar - lvl 80 UH DK
Chernomoffo - lvl 80 Shadow Priest
Chernokingg - lvl 80 Disc Priest
Chernobull - lvl 80 Boomie/Feral Dps Druid
Chernomoo - lvl 80 Boomie/Resto Druid
Hollyboner - lvl 80 ProtHoly/Ret Paladin
Hollycherno - lvl 80 Prot/Holy Paladin
Belewonnabe - lvl 80 Prot/Ret Paladin
Chernobylus - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Evilsmile - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Onlyforbl - lvl 80 Resto/Ele Shaman
Friedpan - lvl 80 FFB Mage
Chermoo - lvl 80 Fury/Prot Warrior
*Proudly Married to Liqueur*
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
Side effect of item. Its 590SP every 2 min, or constant MP5. MP5 win here.cherno666 wrote:tell me why would you use solace as holy paladin? just gofor Talisman of resurgence , intelect > spell power.
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
intelect > everything as holy pala. mp5 realy? as holy pala you dont need mp5 , you have divine plea and meteorite as your mana cooldowns , you ahould almost never go out of mana . which leaves you to chose spell power or intellect. also the activate effect of it with spell power bonus every 2 minutes will save your ass when needed heavier healing, so coming to that concluaion, you choose either mana regeneration which you dont really need as holy paladin or choose to heal heavier?
Chernoo - lvl 80 MM Hunter (Main Char)
Eviltities - lvl 80 DK Tonk
Cherniggar - lvl 80 UH DK
Chernomoffo - lvl 80 Shadow Priest
Chernokingg - lvl 80 Disc Priest
Chernobull - lvl 80 Boomie/Feral Dps Druid
Chernomoo - lvl 80 Boomie/Resto Druid
Hollyboner - lvl 80 ProtHoly/Ret Paladin
Hollycherno - lvl 80 Prot/Holy Paladin
Belewonnabe - lvl 80 Prot/Ret Paladin
Chernobylus - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Evilsmile - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Onlyforbl - lvl 80 Resto/Ele Shaman
Friedpan - lvl 80 FFB Mage
Chermoo - lvl 80 Fury/Prot Warrior
*Proudly Married to Liqueur*
Eviltities - lvl 80 DK Tonk
Cherniggar - lvl 80 UH DK
Chernomoffo - lvl 80 Shadow Priest
Chernokingg - lvl 80 Disc Priest
Chernobull - lvl 80 Boomie/Feral Dps Druid
Chernomoo - lvl 80 Boomie/Resto Druid
Hollyboner - lvl 80 ProtHoly/Ret Paladin
Hollycherno - lvl 80 Prot/Holy Paladin
Belewonnabe - lvl 80 Prot/Ret Paladin
Chernobylus - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Evilsmile - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Onlyforbl - lvl 80 Resto/Ele Shaman
Friedpan - lvl 80 FFB Mage
Chermoo - lvl 80 Fury/Prot Warrior
*Proudly Married to Liqueur*
Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.
Heavier than one shot full HP heal is, well waste Once you reach enough SP in raid your Holy Light is able to heal DPS to max with just cast, only tanks need to cast twice or three times but there is second heal for it so np. Also just put Becon on Tank and forget him, which is better solution.
So yea when you reach that strong Holy Light, you can start going for other stats, such as MP5 ofc.
So yea when you reach that strong Holy Light, you can start going for other stats, such as MP5 ofc.
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