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[TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS (ACCEPTED)

Posted: 04 Dec 2018 00:36
by Regent
Hi,

I have two suggestions here as a follow up to my previously accepted suggestion:
https://truewow.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... 0&start=15

1.
Currently, only WSG and AB are set to 2v2 requirements.
Please change the other BGs to match this.
BGs are finally popping again due to a change in season (more people at home + the upcoming 50 honor kill achievement for Winter's Veil is coming).
The last thing we need is IOC / AV, etc constantly closing because the minimum team member requirements are not fulfilled (not enough people).
We can barely get 5-6 people in queue during peak hours.
Let us have 2v2 requirements so AT LEAST the BG keeps going for those who want to play.

2.
Please increase the chance of AB / WSG / EOTS popping in the WSG queue.
Getting AV / IOC every 2nd BG is not fun (especially when it keeps closing in 5 minutes) and then people don't bother queueing again for hours to avoid AV / IOC.

Most of us couldn't care less about objective based BGs unless we're achievement hunting.
We just want to fight. Arenas are inactive so people need an outlet to fight team vs team. Duel's aren't enough.
AB / EOTS / WSG lets us do that where as all the PvE related siege/boss rubbish in AV/SOTA/IOC does not (not to mention all the traveling involved inside them).
So please let us fight in those BGs so that we may at least enjoy some semblance of action while being able to get bonus honor from RBGs (without having to rely on specific BG queues, which also have different requirements).

Thank you for reading.
Regards.

Re: [TW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS.

Posted: 04 Dec 2018 01:52
by Andromelech
In light of the things i encountered in game myself i am totally for this suggestion , which should be implemented immediately ... it has my support 100%.

Re: [TW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS.

Posted: 04 Dec 2018 02:06
by Dreadnought101
Kinda weird since Arathi/EOTS was 4v4, and Alterac 5v5, but was increased to 5v5 and 10v10

-Arathi Basin feels very clunky as a 2v2, you really shouldnt lower it below 4v4.
-Eye of the storm can actually be 3v3, Ive done 3v3 Eots on other servers and it works fine.
-Alterac valley....Alterac valley....sigh. There are issues with it in that many PvE objectives and loot tables dont work, at low amounts of players its very hard to push down the reinforcements marker quickly, especially because mines, mines give you +1 every 45 seconds and becomes an issue at low pop levels, while being nonexistent in a 40v40 (which i dont think has ever happened in AV even in vanilla)
Make Alterac Valley 5v5 minimum and increase mine reinforcements to 1 every 2 minutes

This way you have a new battleground to push every 2 players
2v2 WSG
3v3 EotS
4v4 Arathi
5v5 Alterac

Ide also say for battlegrounds below lvl 70 to reduce it to 1v1 wsg...

EDIT: oh this is a Truewow tag, I play on primal but feel this is very relevant to primal as well

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 04 Dec 2018 15:43
by natnat123
i have changed the tag, primal should very much be included in this. also, my opinion is the same as Regents. 2v2 of any bg isnt really that fun tbh, but if people wanna pop AV as 2v2 and at least do the quests in there, im all for it. on a side note, i do know some quests are bugged in AV. so if anyone comes across them, please report them on the bug tracker and i will see what i can do

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 04 Dec 2018 15:47
by obolence
+1

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 04 Dec 2018 17:04
by Joh0239
Point number 1: -1.

The issue with having 2v2 AV is that it can't be won unless prot + healer and essentially that the other team ignores them while they are on the final boss. Managing to drain other team's reinforcement would be near impossible with controlling mines and 2 players, which can hide at last boss so they wont be killed. AV isn't meant to be played with that few players. Rbg requires 6 people to start so the minimum of AV should be 3v3, The other bg's are doable and fun with 3v3.

Point Number 2: +1.
Completely Agree. AV and IoC is fun, but when you almost had 2 hour long AV, you don't really want that again. Few days ago we had lots of Bg's and we had 2 hour long AV. When it finished, everyone requed and we got AV again. Almost everyone left since they didn't want/have time for another 2 hour long bg. We get IoC/AV a lot more than we get AB/WSG/Sota.

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 04 Dec 2018 17:11
by Regent
All right, then set AV and IOC to 3v3 and set the rest of them to 2v2.

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 04 Dec 2018 20:14
by m2oenergym2o
+1

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 05 Dec 2018 00:42
by Andromelech
Yes perfect refined plan keeping AV / IOC on 3vs3 and everything else 2vs2 .
Looking forward for it.

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 05 Dec 2018 01:30
by Dreadnought101
Andromelech wrote:
05 Dec 2018 00:42
Yes perfect refined plan keeping AV / IOC on 3vs3 and everything else 2vs2 .
Looking forward for it.
Any info for primal? its also hurting but not as much

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 05 Dec 2018 13:45
by natnat123
Primal will get the same treatment but for tbc/vanilla BG's only ofc. because they are in the same situation.

Re: [TW/PW] Change BG Requirements to 2v2 + Increase Chance of AB / WSG / EOTS

Posted: 18 Dec 2018 11:29
by natnat123
This Suggestion has now been done and should be live after the next restart.

Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin and Eye of the Storm now have 2v2 Requirements and a higher chance to pop on the RBG queue than the rest.

Strand of the Ancients, Alterac Valley and Isle of Conquest now have the lowest chance to pop on the RBG queue.

Strange of the Ancients now has a 2v2 Requirement.

Alterac Valley and Isle of Conquest now have 3v3 Requirements.

Let me know if there is any problems.