Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

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Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#1 » Post by Gadoschi » 02 Oct 2017 21:16

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We've had quite a number of new players or older players with new alts who, naturally, have terrible gear, but are willing to join in with some/other older TW players and farm dungeons for better gear, while boosting realm activity at the same time. However, most of the time they find themselves hindered by not being able to queue for random heroic dungeons or FoS PoS HoR dungeons (often not even for Normal mode, since, apparently, even though you should be able to join those dungeons even if you are not even level 80 yet, there is a Gearscore requirement for that too).

Can we please consider removing Gearscore requirements for Random Heroic Dungeon and FoS/PoS/HoR (both modes)?

I believe the realm could really benefit from this, as there are plenty of us out there who would often queue and help those players out.

You may correct me and say it's actually an item level requirement - even if it is, it does not change the fact it's detrimental to the realm's activity.
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#2 » Post by Nyeriah » 02 Oct 2017 21:28

HoR is virtually undoable if you do it with low geared players. If you get paired with an undergeared tank or healer the others might be rather rough. I agree with the rest though, it matters little.

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#3 » Post by loveable » 02 Oct 2017 22:00

yes
Hor first boss is double and can be farm with low gear

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#4 » Post by Eronox » 02 Oct 2017 23:00

I agree, FoS / PoS is really great dungeons for fresh 80s. HoR would be exactly as Nyeriah said, hard to accomplish, which it is at its currently set gear requirement aswell. I've been through runs where 5.4-5.7 people couldn't handle it even :P

+1 for fos/pos,
I'm not going to lie though, I do feel it's somewhat pointless though as these dungeons are ran as frequently as any RHC, very rarely that is. But quite frankly I'm up for anything that might get us new raiders asap, so yep :tick:
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#5 » Post by Gadoschi » 03 Oct 2017 09:49

Have we then reached an understanding solely on FoS and PoS or on RHC as well?

Also, regarding HoR, I would still remove ilvl/gs requirement for that dungeon as well, because:

1. if you, as a lower geared player, get into an OP group, you can be boosted, and
2. if the group is not OP overall, people are gonna relog and re-queue for a different dungeon anyway.

Usually, 3 or 4 players in every RHC group are OP for the content.

So, why not give the player at least an opportunity to sometimes get boosted in HoR as well?
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#6 » Post by Joh0239 » 03 Oct 2017 14:09

"Usually, 3 or 4 players in every RHC group are OP for the content."


Yea… no. If you que rhc without doing a premade with friends, the chance is that there is 1 tops 2 OP char in the RHC. There are a lot of low geared players on TW who are active in RHC. Now when brewfest is up, the "OP" players que coren and that's it.

I agree that requirment can be removed on FoS/PoS but I think it should remain on HoR.
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#7 » Post by Gadoschi » 14 Oct 2017 13:06

So, what is the status of this suggestion?

I still see some lvl 80s complaining about not being able to join RHC or FOS/POS due to gear limitation.
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#8 » Post by Dunkelstein » 14 Oct 2017 21:19

Maybe take the average GS of all members of a premade group, that way you won't accidently end up with 4 undergeared people in solo Q. I don't know what the queue looks like on TrueWoW, just an idea.
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#9 » Post by Gadoschi » 14 Oct 2017 22:39

That would be adding unnecessary complications.

There is absolutely no need for any sort of gear requirement for anything except, perhaps, HoR HC.
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#10 » Post by loveable » 14 Oct 2017 23:02

i saw an issue its kinda related ..
when u do a dungeon , any of them , u cant do it again even if u que random
my mean is we were 4 in group we did 1 specific dungeon , then we qued rhc and que missed tank , i qued specific with my tank to do that dungeon again but got in other rhc group , i tried couple of times , but it doesnt work anymore

u guys know better ppl farm 3 4 dungeon more than others because of better gear and etc , so whats wrong with it ?
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#11 » Post by Gadoschi » 15 Oct 2017 12:30

Ghost, pls don't flood this thread with your semi-related suggestions which are actually reports meant for bugtracker, not the forum.

Stick to the topic please.
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#12 » Post by loveable » 15 Oct 2017 16:25

@ gadoschi
dont be mad , learn to see everything from other side's
u want to remove gs req from rhc to do fos pos hor for new players ? ( i dont belive this) ;)
anyway , u want help them ?????? , ok but can u tell me what is point of removing gs req when u can't spam fos / pos /hor ? or any other dungeons ??
for doing 1 of them perday , u dont need Rhc , u can LFG and find few player to go inside through walking with 0 gs

and just to let u know , this issue is not bug to report in bugtracker
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#13 » Post by Gadoschi » 15 Oct 2017 19:18

I don't care what you believe.

This is a suggestion thread and I have the right to suggest whatever I want.

All I want is for posts to be on-topic.
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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#14 » Post by Eronox » 16 Oct 2017 23:30

Gadoschi wrote:
14 Oct 2017 13:06
So, what is the status of this suggestion?

I still see some lvl 80s complaining about not being able to join RHC or FOS/POS due to gear limitation.

Doesn't seem like anyone is against it,
same for the staff that peeked into this.

I'll make it happend in due time, FoS/PoS only though

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Re: Removing Dungeon Finder Gearscore Requirements for TW

#15 » Post by Eronox » 17 Oct 2017 00:27

This has been done and is live with immediete effect.
Item level requirement for Forge of Souls and Pit of Saron has been removed
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