[Accepted] Increasing Icecrown Citadel's Buff to 25%

[Nyeriah]

One of the most lazy comments I have ever seen. Who's getting maxed out in a week or two? Getting SM was never a "bust off" on this server, nor was it made easier with this. Was there a buff on retail? I don't know, try reading a bit of the expansion you've been playing for the past (at least) 6 years.

[slocraft]

^ seems like u didn't quite understand what I meant.
Getting the BEST weapon from the end-game boss isn't a bust off at all. Can't u see a problem here?
And heck yea I see tons of people gearing so damn fast. it's not competitive and having a good gear, some heroic bosses brought down doesn't mean a crap.

[Eronox]

^ seems like u didn't quite understand what I meant.
Getting the BEST weapon from the end-game boss isn't a bust off at all. Can't u see a problem here?
And heck yea I see tons of people gearing so damn fast. it's not competitive and having a good gear, some heroic bosses brought down doesn't mean a crap.

So? How is this bad?

People just gets one more reason to actually stay since now you dont have to be in dedicated raiding guilds in order to proceed. And since there is so very few alternatives of guilds, my point stands boosted

[slocraft]

actually seeing most of people already maxed out was the reason for my friends refusing to join here. + making the game easier doesn't necessarily mean making it more enjoyable. I mean, wouldn't you like that for your gear actually to represent your skill?

[Nyeriah]

Yes, please link me your character so I can determine how your skill is.



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Yeah. It would be great if that could be true, and gear really reflected skill. But this simply isn't the game for that, and it never really happened outside of PvP ever in any expansion whatsoever.

[Eronox]

Yes, please link me your character so I can determine how your skill is.

+1


And I really don't see why you disaprove, none of your arguments seems realiable

[slocraft]

http://truewow.org/armory/character.php ... le&realm=t

there u go "determine" my skill xD
Listen I'm not being an asshole here. I just said what I think. Normally that's what everybody does on forums.
If you think that I'm wrong, I would like to hear why and would love to understand what I got wrong.

[Eronox]

http://truewow.org/armory/character.php ... le&realm=t

there u go "determine" my skill xD
Listen I'm not being an asshole here. I just said what I think. Normally that's what everybody does on forums.
If you think that I'm wrong, I would like to hear why and would love to understand what I got wrong.

No what I mean is, what are the reasons behind your denial? Its like, you bring up counter arguments instead of just providing the argument for your standing at once

[Nyeriah]

Your post just seemed too far zooned out as if you were too lazy while writing it or you weren't playing on the server at all, sorry if I was blunt at that.

1) None is getting geared in a week or two;
2) There are about as many SMs now as there were 3 years ago, even if that equals to "many";
3) Yes, there was a buff on retail;
4) Not too many people are fond of the idea of gearing all over again

[slocraft]

So basically, when you see a player with ICC25hc stuff, do you think that he/she/it did something special to get them? For me, a player with a sm means that he/she/it has just spent some time playing and not that he/she/it has some skill.
Increasing the difficulty of icc (reducing the buff or at least leaving @20%) will make it harder to get them. then people will actually have to try harder to obtain hc items and get BiS gear. Those who succeed, will feel somewhat special and superior (in a good way) compared to others. It will actually show a little bit more skill... Don't you think? :c

[Eronox]

In 25 man scale the difference isnt huge. Like only cuz its 25% now, it doesnt mean guilds can pull LK heroic when they couldnt before.

But I understand your solitaried basing

[Justicelight]

Any input from people which were "+1" on this suggestion regarding the raid performance after the implementation? Would be great to give some feedback from everyone, since they made it like it was the main issue or it was something that would really help. So feedback pelis, just to harmonize the staff < > players interaction.

[arnis5]

Hellraisers attempted LK25HC today and I can say 25% gave us much better chance with Valkyres in p2. We hited 47% LK with 25 people allive but unfortunately server DC which happened today kinda destroyed raid. So yes 25% buff actualy did help us in Icc25hc and you can expect soon Horde side killing LK25hc aswell if not even 2morow if we manage to make continue for our Icc25hc since its working day.

[mcheka]

Really glad to hear the buff is helping guilds other than just Inquisition. Good luck with it, really hope you guys get LK!

[Nyeriah]

Seeing there wasn't a whole lot of progress after the buff has been implemented, perhaps we should consider lowering it to the previous value. Feedback from others who haven't posted yet is welcome