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Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 02:12
by Royo
Naljs wrote:
I've yet to see 1 horde who doesn't do that exact same thing in Stormwind. Always dashing off to Stockades like real men.
But while we're on the subject of fixing bugs or banning for them, how about the pixel bug in front of Alliance AH? Where the hordes gather and become invisble while 1 of them kills the AH to taunt an Alliance player to enable PvP before getting jumped by 8 of them? Where healers stand invisible during fights and are untargetable and you can't even see where the heals are coming from?
Got one word for the Hordes using either of these: Hypocrits. The lot of you.
Did you just turn a single report about an Alliance player as an attack towards the whole Alliance?
Go play in traffic.
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 03:51
by x00er00
It seems some people need to step down their high horses and look at things in a better light ... if they are able to do so ... also it appears peoples didn't understand at all what i said ... well lets try again shall we ? :
Generally some horde players and former staff members think they are /still are in the later case qualified to pass judgement on how punishments for rules breaking should be enforced or how drastic such punishments should be . The only ones who are entitled and should be entitled , able and qualified to make such a decision and enforce it are the STAFF members ( current game masters , head admins , and Roel ) . The community however should not have anything to do with such things since from the moment a decision is made after it had been imposed by the player base whims and wants we come under the rule of a mob and i don't think i need to explain why that would be disastrous for the server.
About Bezvirilian , no thank you i don't need you to explain anything to me or to make me see things your way ... your style of switching things and trying to make those things be seen under what light suits you best at any given time doesn't work so please keep your shill ways to yourself thank you very much.
Tenebro , i don't even want to discuss his attitude he has infused himself with too much PvP godhood and superiority so he thinks himself a GOD of the battlegrounds and arenas with a rude attitude towards the hole alliance in general.
But now what i find hard to digest it Matsy and the way he thinks the staff is handling things around here ... i am at a loss how could someone think that the Staff who works tirelessly for the WHOLE community is favoring only the Alliance - i am baffled how such a person , ultimately a player thinks he is entitled and qualified to CLEARLY say that gms are biased towards one faction ???
The only fault that the Staff has in my view is that they handle things with too much diplomacy and they allow some players to dispute the Staff's way of handling things , those players .... we all know who they are don't even know how lucky they are that this server's staff is so permissive .
What should be done to curb their attitude is the adding to the rules of the following lines :
Any of the following actions will result in a temporary/permanent mute of your in-game account:
1 ) To try to make any joke with a GameMaster from which he might be actually offended or only feel any offense;
2 ) To swear at anything related to the server or the server itself (rollbacks, restarts, scripts, site, forum, etc);
3 ) To insult the donators;
Other information:
Gamemasters are above players when it comes to hierarchy, thus any attempt to defy them will result in any punishment the GM judges to be on par with the violation (most probably from 2 weeks mute up to 1 month ban )
Lastly if the staff judges in their wisdom that Eryx abused and broke the rules then i totally support him being punished as the gms feel adequate to the situation .
Kind regards.
mAtH
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 04:06
by benzviliran
x00er00 wrote:It seems some people need to step down their high horses and look at things in a better light ... if they are able to do so ... also it appears peoples didn't understand at all what i said ... well lets try again shall we ? :
Generally some horde players and former staff members think they are /still are in the later case qualified to pass judgement on how punishments for rules breaking should be enforced or how drastic such punishments should be . The only ones who are entitled and should be entitled , able and qualified to make such a decision and enforce it are the STAFF members ( current game masters , head admins , and Roel ) . The community however should not have anything to do with such things since from the moment a decision is made after it had been imposed by the player base whims and wants we come under the rule of a mob and i don't think i need to explain why that would be disastrous for the server.
About Bezvirilian , no thank you i don't need you to explain anything to me or to make me see things your way ... your style of switching things and trying to make those things be seen under what light suits you best at any given time doesn't work so please keep your shill ways to yourself thank you very much.
Tenebro , i don't even want to discuss his attitude he has infused himself with too much PvP godhood and superiority so he thinks himself a GOD of the battlegrounds and arenas with a rude attitude towards the hole alliance in general.
But now what i find hard to digest it Matsy and the way he thinks the staff is handling things around here ... i am at a loss how could someone think that the Staff who works tirelessly for the WHOLE community is favoring only the Alliance - i am baffled how such a person , ultimately a player thinks he is entitled and qualified to CLEARLY say that gms are biased towards one faction ???
The only fault that the Staff has in my view is that they handle things with too much diplomacy and they allow some players to dispute the Staff's way of handling things , those players .... we all know who they are don't even know how lucky they are that this server's staff is so permissive .
What should be done to curb their attitude is the adding to the rules of the following lines :
Any of the following actions will result in a temporary/permanent mute of your in-game account:
1 ) To try to make any joke with a GameMaster from which he might be actually offended or only feel any offense;
2 ) To swear at anything related to the server or the server itself (rollbacks, restarts, scripts, site, forum, etc);
3 ) To insult the donators;
Other information:
Gamemasters are above players when it comes to hierarchy, thus any attempt to defy them will result in any punishment the GM judges to be on par with the violation (most probably from 2 weeks mute up to 1 month ban )
Lastly if the staff judges in their wisdom that Eryx abused and broke the rules then i totally support him being punished as the gms feel adequate to the situation .
Kind regards.
mAtH
so i read all what you said:
so you licked alot of ass here and calling a GM a god with lots of wisdom etc, i think u embarrased them alot with all those compliments this is a new lvl of ass licking. no one insulting gms here and no one think they are beyond gms neither gms beyond players. there is no supriority in here.
the way i see it it is a community and if talking about wisdom people should learn from each other the good things.
about my way, my way is following the server rules and also to have it as blizz as possible, now if you will stop licking for a moment people asses you will might be able to see that we are trying here to achieve something each one in his own way, the staff has no bad intentions they try to deal with the issue the way they think is best, some of us like in this case disagree about the way they deal with the issue as untill now the player did not stop and still is abusing therefor we find their way of solving the issue wrong and not effective.
now if ill go to the server rules it is said there that abusing etc may lead to a ban and permament, yes it is also say that they keep the right to deal with however they find to deal with it best, however we dont tell them not to but we do try to make them understand that things should be dealt different .
May i ask by the way what calling a GM a god and saying he is above all and suggestion rules that insulting a GM will be a perma ban etc i mean i am pretty sure this topic is about reporting a player and not about insulting a GM i mean where do you see someone insulting a GM?
one more question, are you from North Korea?
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 04:25
by Saddie
x00er00 wrote:
Any of the following actions will result in a temporary/permanent mute of your in-game account:
1 ) To try to make any joke with a GameMaster from which he might be actually offended or only feel any offense;
2 ) To swear at anything related to the server or the server itself (rollbacks, restarts, scripts, site, forum, etc);
3 ) To insult the donators;
Kind regards.
mAtH
You lost me at this... is this some kind of attempt of yours to be recruited as a GM? while I do agree that the way they handle things it's way too permisive, it goes both ways, eryx has been abusing in BGs for a long time so this is not a one time thing, about time something would be done about it, and after so long, it should be something permanent. banning/muting for insulting donators and/or complaining about rollbacks? you really must be some kind of "special"
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 04:39
by x00er00
@ Saddie , lol i don't want to be anything else then a player .... the above statement i made is how i feel about the situation and please read my words more thoroughly i said " Any of the following actions will result in a temporary/permanent MUTE of your in-game account "
@ Bezvirilian you are calling respect ass licking ? And deferring to someone else is hard for you i understand the shill power is strong in you . Also where did i called gms gods ? Learn to read
Finally to answer you no i don't come from North Korea but rather from the country of the green shirts and the Iron Guard
Feel free to flame me to the end of earth but i fully support and stand by what i said above.
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 04:57
by benzviliran
x00er00 wrote:@ Saddie , lol i don't want to be anything else then a player .... the above statement i made is how i feel about the situation and please read my words more thoroughly i said " Any of the following actions will result in a temporary/permanent MUTE of your in-game account "
@ Bezvirilian you are calling respect ass licking ? And deferring to someone else is hard for you i understand the shill power is strong in you . Also where did i called gms gods ? Learn to read
Finally to answer you no i don't come from North Korea but rather from the country of the green shirts and the Iron Guard
Feel free to flame me to the end of earth but i fully support and stand by what i said above.
you didnt say they are gods but you described it as they were gods thats a metaform, also what does donors has to do with it rofl, if u donate money you are a bit above players? what kind of thinking is that. i admit licking ass might be an insult for some people however you are talking here about how gms are great and how they are superior and im asking why why are you adding stuff that has nothing to do with the topic?
i dont flame you,actually you are flaming in this topic as everything you say is irelevent + good for you that you support it perhaps you can support human rights too in here but thats again for another topic and maybe another website.
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 05:03
by Cocopuffs
no one mentioning branhos here? why?
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 05:15
by benzviliran
Cocopuffs wrote:no one mentioning branhos here? why?
was mentioned in a special topic just for him but ended in locking the topic with excuse as not enough people complained to care about banning him or punishing etc.
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 06:31
by Clawmaker
Kniteknite wrote:the post is comprised of a los issue that should be in Bug Tracker section, and a pissed off at EryX portion . Understandable to get pissed and frustrated with enemy players making use of los , as was the case yesterday in a WSG where a BloodElf Paladin went into a little nook inside SilverWing Stronghold and it took a long time to kill Him, but that is why areas like that are there. SOTA has been even more glitchy with los before present, not being able to cast or range attack from one side of broken gate through to the other side. There is a thing called discovery, and finding out someone due to some newly discovered los glitch is an issue that does belong in Bug Tracker section. Unfortunately this ended up being posted in Player Reports. The post title speaks for itself. If I was the one in the ss out of los due to a glitch I would confirm Tenebro's post in Bug Tracker after I saw that it was made there. Cut this topic in half, and post the 2 halves in each section?
I never saw that los glitch before today, and I'm sure a lot of peeps are also seeing that first hand as well. At least Tenebro was fair in starting the topic title with " Either fix any possible glitch in bgs..." being objective, but that this was posted in Player Reports, causing this glitch report to lose that initial focus on fixing it, and starts to turn into a fixing EryX scenario.
Time stamps?
http://postimg.org/image/ujgdno001/
The Belf Paladin in SilverWing...
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 06:38
by Saddie
You could not have possibly screwed that angle up more than it is in that screenshot
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 08:06
by Folkk
x00er00 wrote:It seems some people need to step down their high horses and look at things in a better light ... if they are able to do so ... also it appears peoples didn't understand at all what i said ... well lets try again shall we ? :
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[hide]Generally some horde players and former staff members think they are /still are in the later case qualified to pass judgement on how punishments for rules breaking should be enforced or how drastic such punishments should be . The only ones who are entitled and should be entitled , able and qualified to make such a decision and enforce it are the STAFF members ( current game masters , head admins , and Roel ) . The community however should not have anything to do with such things since from the moment a decision is made after it had been imposed by the player base whims and wants we come under the rule of a mob and i don't think i need to explain why that would be disastrous for the server.
About Bezvirilian , no thank you i don't need you to explain anything to me or to make me see things your way ... your style of switching things and trying to make those things be seen under what light suits you best at any given time doesn't work so please keep your shill ways to yourself thank you very much.
Tenebro , i don't even want to discuss his attitude he has infused himself with too much PvP godhood and superiority so he thinks himself a GOD of the battlegrounds and arenas with a rude attitude towards the hole alliance in general.
But now what i find hard to digest it Matsy and the way he thinks the staff is handling things around here ... i am at a loss how could someone think that the Staff who works tirelessly for the WHOLE community is favoring only the Alliance - i am baffled how such a person , ultimately a player thinks he is entitled and qualified to CLEARLY say that gms are biased towards one faction ???
The only fault that the Staff has in my view is that they handle things with too much diplomacy and they allow some players to dispute the Staff's way of handling things , those players .... we all know who they are don't even know how lucky they are that this server's staff is so permissive .[/hide]
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What should be done to curb their attitude is the adding to the rules of the following lines :
Any of the following actions will result in a temporary/permanent mute of your in-game account:
1 ) To try to make any joke with a GameMaster from which he might be actually offended or only feel any offense;
2 ) To swear at anything related to the server or the server itself (rollbacks, restarts, scripts, site, forum, etc);
3 ) To insult the donators;
Other information:
Gamemasters are above players when it comes to hierarchy, thus any attempt to defy them will result in any punishment the GM judges to be on par with the violation (most probably from 2 weeks mute up to 1 month ban )
Lastly if the staff judges in their wisdom that Eryx abused and broke the rules then i totally support him being punished as the gms feel adequate to the situation .
Kind regards.
mAtH
You are forgeting that you are playing on truewow, not on Warmane. They have a large comunity and a pay-to-win system. All those rules that you mentioned are valid to them there because they need an iron hand to mantain the image of the server, thus keeping the inflow of donations.
Here there is a different situation. We have a small comunity and an even smaller pvp comunity. That means that everyone knows everyone. You have to understand that when you witness such abusive behaviour going largely unpunished for such a long period of time, you begin to feel like the staff are biased towards that player, especially when topics like this get ignored by them. A little more communication wouldn't hurt. Like: How does the staff feel about this? What's the reason for such indulgence? Anything....?
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 08:16
by cherno666
Reading posts from some people here is like reading posts from people who don't play on this server or dont read forums.
Warning? Yes , if he abused something for 1st or 2nd time.
The guy not only abuses glitches/bug , but he also spams emotes on you while doing it , which is saying that he is 100% aware of him exploiting glitches to make bg outcome better for him.
In last Eryx discussion which he got 30 days ban staff said :"we'll look into it and give back answer in a week or so, cause due to his abuse record next ban is perma". They came with answer 10 days later only after seeing rage chat screenshot and banned him for 30 days. Now read what GMs said again.
The 30 days ban should be like the last warning player gets if I'm not mistaken? Or you plan to just not do anything about it since he didn't abuse same thing?
Its like you dont make worse prison punishment cause he robbed 2 different banks claiming it would be worse if a person robbed a same bank twice + commenting how that bank should not be opened at all untill it's 100% nuclear bomb proof so noone can ever break in.
Close SOTA till all glitches are fixed? Sure , close rest bgs as well then since Eryx abuses those as well(not gonna mention cases as they have already been reported) .
So after you close all bgs so Eryx doesn't get banned , he will have nothing to do but pve , at which point we can start closing raids as well untill glitches are fixed there as well.
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 09:37
by Myaoming
Wooooo look at this topic!
Well in my opinion this should be bannable granted he did it on purpose (gets low on hp and runs to the gay "safe spot")
Is this glitch even known? It's the 1st time i see something like that in such spot.
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 10:59
by cherno666
Myaoming wrote:Wooooo look at this topic!
Well in my opinion this should be bannable granted he did it on purpose (gets low on hp and runs to the gay "safe spot")
Is this glitch even known? It's the 1st time i see something like that in such spot.
Well Eryx surely knows about it , as for many others
Either perma ban him from server or perma ban him from doing PVP
Re: Ban the innocent
Posted: 16 Oct 2015 11:02
by Naljs
Royo wrote:Naljs wrote:
I've yet to see 1 horde who doesn't do that exact same thing in Stormwind. Always dashing off to Stockades like real men.
But while we're on the subject of fixing bugs or banning for them, how about the pixel bug in front of Alliance AH? Where the hordes gather and become invisble while 1 of them kills the AH to taunt an Alliance player to enable PvP before getting jumped by 8 of them? Where healers stand invisible during fights and are untargetable and you can't even see where the heals are coming from?
Got one word for the Hordes using either of these: Hypocrits. The lot of you.
Did you just turn a single report about an Alliance player as an attack towards the whole Alliance?
Go play in traffic.
No, I did not.
Go back to school.