Rogue[Slice and Dice]
Rogue[Slice and Dice]
Hi , i'm really surpised that no one had reported this already , [Slice and dice] : http://www.wowwiki.com/Slice_and_Dice , is currently putting rogues into combat when used however it is not supposed to.
What steps will reproduce the problem?
Stack up some combo points on your target , then , get out of combat , use slice and dice and it will immediately get you into combat ..... when it should not be the case !
What steps will reproduce the problem?
Stack up some combo points on your target , then , get out of combat , use slice and dice and it will immediately get you into combat ..... when it should not be the case !
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Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
thats because nobody is using slice and dice when out of combat, that's why nobody reported it...
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Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
Is it just me , or you're saying it like it's a bad thing to do ? because i can give you a lot of reasons why this bug should be fixed as soon as possible !
Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
If you want to SND before sap ur bad.
That's pretty much all the stuff you can't do because of this bug.
That's pretty much all the stuff you can't do because of this bug.
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Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
how would you even have combo points on a target before engaging it... besides vanishing and reseting the mob.... so... yes it's kinda something completely pointless to do, but I don't play rogue... so what do I know
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Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
Could you be more useless than that ?Rehan wrote:If you want to SND before sap ur bad.
That's pretty much all the stuff you can't do because of this bug.
I assume you've never heard about something called " switching target " i guess you're more of " the tunneling guy " who plays Dk and who keeps hitting the same guy during all the game ! Anyway , as a rogue you need to switch target ,and while doing that you'd like to take advantage of the cps that you already have on your current target by using snd , You can use it while you're LOS-ing then seek to sap and switch target , you can use it just before going in stealth after a full gouge cause after that all you think about is not getting out of stealth / avoiding the enemy aoe , and i can go on and on and on ...
Anyways , i'm new on the serv and i'm not level 80 yet , so i don't know if there are other bugs that need to be fixed more urgently than this " i hope not ^^ " but still i felt like reporting this since no one did !
Gl !
Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
you r right.
this server tries to be as blizzlike as possible.
thats why if what you say is true could you find us reliable source saying it is that way as you are saying it is.
then im shure developers will do what they can to fix it.
you must understand thet they have a lot of things to do, but this thing shouldnt be hard to fix.
just find a source and it will be fixed in few days probably.
this server tries to be as blizzlike as possible.
thats why if what you say is true could you find us reliable source saying it is that way as you are saying it is.
then im shure developers will do what they can to fix it.
you must understand thet they have a lot of things to do, but this thing shouldnt be hard to fix.
just find a source and it will be fixed in few days probably.
Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
I see I touched a soft spot already.Kuroh wrote: Could you be more useless than that ?
Rogues tend to be played as a go-in-go-out kind of style, aka assassinate high-priority target and get out. Because of that you tend to be focused a lot therefor you won't survive long enough to "switch target", at least most of the time that is what will happen.Kuroh wrote:I assume you've never heard about something called " switching target " i guess you're more of " the tunneling guy " who plays Dk and who keeps hitting the same guy during all the game ! Anyway , as a rogue you need to switch target
Why would you use SND if your only goal after getting in stealth is to not get unstealthed anyway?Kuroh wrote:you can use it just before going in stealth after a full gouge cause after that all you think about is not getting out of stealth / avoiding the enemy aoe
I am not saying that this isn't a bug or that it shouldn't be fixed, but you claiming that
is stupid when there are much more important things to fix, such as content that people actually care about and that don't only affect your controversial strategy of using SND before stealthing instead of after(or while stealthing if you like using premeditation>snd as a sub rogue)Kuroh wrote:this bug should be fixed as soon as possible !
This bug can affect players' playstyles but I don't think it should be as high of a priority as you think it should.
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Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
Kuroh wrote:Could you be more useless than that ?Rehan wrote:If you want to SND before sap ur bad.
That's pretty much all the stuff you can't do because of this bug.
I assume you've never heard about something called " switching target " i guess you're more of " the tunneling guy " who plays Dk and who keeps hitting the same guy during all the game ! Anyway , as a rogue you need to switch target ,and while doing that you'd like to take advantage of the cps that you already have on your current target by using snd , You can use it while you're LOS-ing then seek to sap and switch target , you can use it just before going in stealth after a full gouge cause after that all you think about is not getting out of stealth / avoiding the enemy aoe , and i can go on and on and on ...
Anyways , i'm new on the serv and i'm not level 80 yet , so i don't know if there are other bugs that need to be fixed more urgently than this " i hope not ^^ " but still i felt like reporting this since no one did !
Gl !
ya rehan... shame on you for hitting the same target over and over again untill it dies...
anyway... I assume you meant PVP environment when you mentioned gouge.. because there is no way in hell you can gouge a mob and then stealth, or blind a mob, and then stealth (after 5seconds when combat ends ofc) I've seen THIS scenario working in PVE.... BUT that was back in tbc, and the server was most likely bugged.... here mobs will keep you as their target if you have incapacitated them in one way or another... and at level 80... well assuming you will pvp and go assa spec.... you open on the enemy with stuns, stun him some more, and auto attack him plus a few more things that rogues do... but idc about that
as for pve well... you will find that NOBODY on the server will give a crap about interrupting your sap or gouge or blind on mobs... anyway good luck in your leveling to 80, and hope you join some raids and watch as your perfect idea of a rogue crumbles upon you... here is a hint at lvl 80 you're mostly autoattacking
you mean we will wait for trinity core to fix it, cause from my personal knowledge of what the devs do here, all of them do as much as possible to avoid tinkering with the coreTeal Deer wrote:you r right.
this server tries to be as blizzlike as possible.
thats why if what you say is true could you find us reliable source saying it is that way as you are saying it is.
then im shure developers will do what they can to fix it.
you must understand thet they have a lot of things to do, but this thing shouldnt be hard to fix.
just find a source and it will be fixed in few days probably.
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Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
Wrong, so very wrong!blacklustersoldier wrote: you mean we will wait for trinity core to fix it, cause from my personal knowledge of what the devs do here, all of them do as much as possible to avoid tinkering with the core
We're at our 104th's core commit. They're composed by a considerable miscellanea of things, ranging from achievements, spells, quests, bosses and even useful commands that help our management and improve our customer services. Well, we do with core what we please - read it was what "we can" - in order to achieve our goals.
But to some extents, all of you are right at some moment. Yes, my priority at the moment is toc5 and yes this does seem like something not-so-hard to fix - even thought I hate dealing with spells as nothing really ever. They may seem easy but then when you actually get to it they turn out to be not as easy, which, as you may well know, pisses me off as some turn to be not fixable [by me] at the given moment.
About this issue in question, it's however, an important issue as it causes a very weird - in a bad way - behavior to creatures. Last I tested, they would try to chase the player that got into combat with them no matter how far they were, causing combat locks (popularly known as "combat bug").
Hope this clears up few points.
Regards.
Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
As you know i have a char' to level up , so i'll start by thanking " Teal Deer " ( anyone who played on retail can confirm this , and for the most sceptical among us you can just go to Arena tournament and see by yourselves " and wishing Good luck for " Nyeriah "
Well , anyways , feel free to not posting when you don't have something useful to add , i don't always have time to respond to your trolls , i think i wasted enough time so don't bother posting cause i won't respond ,at least to your messages " Rehan / blacklustersoldier " !
Gl to the staff and have a good day ^^
Gl to the devs
The only spot that you touched is the " Bug reports are not a place to show off your trolling skill , if you have something usefull to add , you're very welcome to do so, otherwise stop wasting our time " spot*I see I touched a soft spot already.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong x10000 , if you weren't so focused on trolling / showing off , you would have noticed that i was talking about arena , 1v2 , bg situations , not a crowd fighting.I would have liked to tell why you're wrong but i prefer to leave you to your " know it all " attitude , it's more fun to watch ^^Rogues tend to be played as a go-in-go-out kind of style, aka assassinate high-priority target and get out. Because of that you tend to be focused a lot therefor you won't survive long enough to "switch target", at least most of the time that is what will happen.
Why would you use SND if your only goal after getting in stealth is to not get unstealthed anyway?
Before re-opening , in most cases a " shs + c.s " re-opening , but what do i know i'm simply a rogue who want to snd before switching target then seeking to sap , maybe after distracting* the enemy aoe or whatever promise next time i have another stupid idea like this one i'll delete wowKuroh wrote:
you can use it just before going in stealth after a full gouge cause after that all you think about is not getting out of stealth / avoiding the enemy aoe
I wrote that while thinking of how rogues used to take advantage of this bug in arenas , on other servs that i played on , but since no one brought it up i assume they don't know about it which is good , and that's why wrote this :Kuroh wrote:
this bug should be fixed as soon as possible !
But like i said you are too focused on trying to troll than understand , i'm starting to wonder if you can really readAnyways , i'm new on the serv and i'm not level 80 yet , so i don't know if there are other bugs that need to be fixed more urgently than this " i hope not ^^ " but still i felt like reporting this since no one did !
Oh Really ? what tipped you off ? i won't bother quote the rest of your message , simply cause i don't see a reason why , to me it seemed like a little conversation that you could've have had in your head why bother sharing it with us , why ?I assume you meant PVP environment
Well , anyways , feel free to not posting when you don't have something useful to add , i don't always have time to respond to your trolls , i think i wasted enough time so don't bother posting cause i won't respond ,at least to your messages " Rehan / blacklustersoldier " !
Gl to the staff and have a good day ^^
Gl to the devs
Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
Not sharing your opinion = trolling
I would bother countering everything you just said (such as a way to get around the sap issue is to sap first and then slice and dice until the bug gets fixed, shouldn't be a problem since you like target switching so much) but you're obviously just a waste of time because you are using ad hominem to support your case.
Google it since I'm pretty sure you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Rehan out.
I would bother countering everything you just said (such as a way to get around the sap issue is to sap first and then slice and dice until the bug gets fixed, shouldn't be a problem since you like target switching so much) but you're obviously just a waste of time because you are using ad hominem to support your case.
Google it since I'm pretty sure you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Rehan out.
Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
This bug is minor and can be ignored if you compare it to Honor Among Thieves bug which is 10 times more game-breaking.
I must admit I didn't knew this was a bug but here is the confirmation:
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=148315
@ 3.50 he uses snd then saps again; you can also see on his bar than he can still click on food
"I wrote that while thinking of how rogues used to take advantage of this bug in arenas , on other servs that i played on , but since no one brought it up i assume they don't know about it which is good , and that's why wrote this :"
You mean using snd to stop people from eating? You almost never get the chance to do that in an arena ..only in duels maybe.
P.S: If you're going to look into rogue bugs, please start with HaT since it's the number 1 bug for this class.ty
I must admit I didn't knew this was a bug but here is the confirmation:
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=148315
@ 3.50 he uses snd then saps again; you can also see on his bar than he can still click on food
"I wrote that while thinking of how rogues used to take advantage of this bug in arenas , on other servs that i played on , but since no one brought it up i assume they don't know about it which is good , and that's why wrote this :"
You mean using snd to stop people from eating? You almost never get the chance to do that in an arena ..only in duels maybe.
P.S: If you're going to look into rogue bugs, please start with HaT since it's the number 1 bug for this class.ty
Re: Rogue[Slice and Dice]
ThanksI must admit I didn't knew this was a bug but here is the confirmation:
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=148315
@ 3.50 he uses snd then saps again; you can also see on his bar than he can still click on food
See that's why i said this :This bug is minor and can be ignored if you compare it to Honor Among Thieves bug which is 10 times more game-breaking.
Believe it or not , the first second i got here , i asked about " honor among thives " and i was told that it was working just fine u__u guess they didn't know what they were talking about , and i also checked on the forum but there was no bug report i was kinda relieved , but since it's bugged why no one reported it yet ? is it the cps that got reseted when someone in your party does a crit on another target than yours ?Anyways , i'm new on the serv and i'm not level 80 yet , so i don't know if there are other bugs that need to be fixed more urgently than this " i hope not ^^ " but still i felt like reporting this since no one did !
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