You can spell it in two different ways, just as with the word "color" you can also spell it as "colour". In case your post was to show that you think it can only be spelled as "armoury".Ancestor wrote:armoury
Armory Updates, Suggestions and Issues
- Hansrutger
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Re: New Armory
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I'd say that trying is the best one can do in order to higher themselves from the people crying and only complaining. Whilst you try, it doesn't mean it is always going to be the most successful result but I'd like to think that it is still a better choice than standing idle.
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I'd say that trying is the best one can do in order to higher themselves from the people crying and only complaining. Whilst you try, it doesn't mean it is always going to be the most successful result but I'd like to think that it is still a better choice than standing idle.
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Re: New Armory
Indeed, I would normally use armoury myself as it's the standard for UK spelling (just like colour or labour), but in this context I try to keep it to the more US-style spelling of armory since that is how Blizzard spells it and I believe the majority of people here spell it that way too. However, being a grumpy Brit, I do feel as if I'm committing something on par with mass murder by doing this... 

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Re: New Armory
Nuko the item level formula used at armory is wrong and it's confusing people, item quality matters when calculating it and currently the core calculates it as "item level = item level - 13" for anything except epics and legendaries. Additionally, the ranged slot is skipped and isn't counted for the average item level formula.




Re: New Armory
Expertise still displays wrong on the character page.
Anyone with a tank spec would be interested to check if they reached the expertise cap.
I remember a while ago you said there were more difficulties associated with it, are there any plans to work on it ?
Anyone with a tank spec would be interested to check if they reached the expertise cap.
I remember a while ago you said there were more difficulties associated with it, are there any plans to work on it ?
Re: New Armory
Nuko if you have time, a fix to the missing loot links to items that drop from chest/box type objects like Deathbringer's Cache could be added to armory since atm those items are being shown as not dropping from anywhere
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Re: New Armory
Okay, changed the average item level function, must say I've never come across this combined itemlevel and quality value.
Expertise is something that I've been trying to figure out for a while, I think the armory data table on the server does not supply the needed values to calculate it fully. The previous armory (by shadez, and no longer developed) was not able to do this either. If someone knows how it is calculated, then please let me know.
Loot templates have been something I've been doing a fair bit of work on lately, and hopefully the fruits of that labour will show soon with things such as game objects showing up as loot drops.
Expertise is something that I've been trying to figure out for a while, I think the armory data table on the server does not supply the needed values to calculate it fully. The previous armory (by shadez, and no longer developed) was not able to do this either. If someone knows how it is calculated, then please let me know.
Loot templates have been something I've been doing a fair bit of work on lately, and hopefully the fruits of that labour will show soon with things such as game objects showing up as loot drops.
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- Psychromatic
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Re: New Armory
I think 10 expertise rating = 2 expertise, I would need to check ingame and see when I gem it/equip items and work with x0 values. Obviously that simple math isn't enough to help you, but maybe it can offer some help 

Re: New Armory
FYI At level 80, every 8.2 points of expertise rating grant 1 expertise. For boss-level mobs (which are calculated as your level + 3) the soft cap is 6.5% dodge or 26 expertise (214 expertise rating), and the hard cap is 14% parry or 56 expertise (460 expertise rating).
But there is also the issue with in-game Expertise caps on TW being bugged
that might mean the data present on the armory data table might be off to begin with.
But there is also the issue with in-game Expertise caps on TW being bugged

Re: New Armory
Here is a list of the expertise multiplier's for level 0 - 99 from the gtCombatRatings.dbc.
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Calculation being expertise rating / multiplier + expertise mods.
The armoury seems to just have the wrong offset its using level 79 multiplier for 80 and adding level * 5.
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0.096154
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0.144231
0.192308
0.240385
0.288462
0.336538
0.384615
0.432692
0.480769
0.528846
0.576923
0.625
0.673077
0.721154
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1.25
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1.490385
1.538462
1.586538
1.634615
1.682692
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1.875
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2.067308
2.115385
2.163461
2.211539
2.259615
2.307692
2.355769
2.403846
2.451923
2.5
2.594937
2.697368
2.808219
2.928571
3.059702
3.203125
3.360656
3.534483
3.727273
3.942308
4.241735
4.563906
4.910545
5.283514
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6.581153
7.081008
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8.197496
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9.490026
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17.045591
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21.232018
22.844641
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26.44664
28.455324
30.616577
32.941982
35.444004
Calculation being expertise rating / multiplier + expertise mods.
The armoury seems to just have the wrong offset its using level 79 multiplier for 80 and adding level * 5.
Re: New Armory
Ahah! That should be very useful, thanks!
The old armory, had an array of multipliers, but the developer had written in a comment that he didn't think they were correct.
Thanks everyone!
The old armory, had an array of multipliers, but the developer had written in a comment that he didn't think they were correct.
Thanks everyone!

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Re: New Armory
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Re: New Armory
Updates:
- Revamped guild profile pages, fixing issues with updating descriptions etc
- Re-worked item pages, now offering more information including drops from chests and rewards from quests (as well as drop chances (yay!)).
- You can now get your first look at the NPC pages by clicking on the names of NPCs in the "Looted From" list on item pages. (More to come)
- I've set the expertise calculations to use the coefficients provided by gecko and created a list of racial, talent etc bonuses to expertise, it seems to be giving sensible values now, cheers all for those data everyone!
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"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Re: New Armory
Expertise is still wonky on some of my toons but overall most of them show same exp value on armory as in-game.Nuko wrote:Updates:
- Revamped guild profile pages, fixing issues with updating descriptions etc
- Re-worked item pages, now offering more information including drops from chests and rewards from quests (as well as drop chances (yay!)).
- You can now get your first look at the NPC pages by clicking on the names of NPCs in the "Looted From" list on item pages. (More to come)
- I've set the expertise calculations to use the coefficients provided by gecko and created a list of racial, talent etc bonuses to expertise, it seems to be giving sensible values now, cheers all for those data everyone!
The rest of the updates are stellar

P.S: I just noticed that the loot drop chances for RS are not reflecting the bug fixes that were done to its loot-table.
Re: New Armory
It gets drop chances directly from the loot tables, so if it is showing drop chances other than what they should be, it's because they actually are that on the server.
Looking at the thread about the RS loot table fixes, it has only been confirmed to have been fixed on the PTR, not the live server.
Looking at the thread about the RS loot table fixes, it has only been confirmed to have been fixed on the PTR, not the live server.
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