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[TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 30 Apr 2020 19:18
by Roel


Greetings Dear Community,

We have implemented some exciting new changes that we hope will incentivize more PvP activity on the server.
These changes are as follows:


1. The arena point flush will now occur daily, as opposed to once a week that occurred previously (TW realm only). This should make it more viable to obtain PvP gear from arena points (compared to doing PvE for Emblems of Frost to buy the same gear).

2. If you don't manage to do the required 10 arena matches, they will carry over to the next flush. So for the TW realm you could do 2 matches a day and get a flush after 5 days if you want.

3. There is no more rating loss below 1500 rating and losses will allow a slow climb to 1500. This is meant to benefit low geared teams. Getting above 1500 rating still requires a sufficient amount of victories.

4. Rating gains/losses from arena matches have been tripled to compensate for the waiting times. For TW, this should make it possible to attain enough rating for purchasing Wrathful gear again with less matches.

5. Losing against a lower rated team is now less punishing. This is intended to reduce "sniping" and encourage more activity. Having a 50% winrate will always be enough to maintain your rating.

6. The first RBG win of the day will now grant 3x more arena points (from 25 to 75). Honor rewards are 3x the shown values (11160 honor bonus for the first win) due to the 3x honor rate that was implemented long ago.

7. RBG selection is now smarter. It will rotate between available BGs and will prioritize Warsong Gulch for 2v2. If there is higher subsequent activity, Eye of the Storm, Arathi Basin or Strand of the Ancients will start instead. Isle of Conquest and Alterac Valley will require more BG activity (as well as more players in queue) before they start.

Please Note:
TW Season 1 for 2020 officially ended today. TW Season 2 is now active.
Notifications have been sent out for the active members of the rank 1 team.
Check your in-game mail and follow the enclosed instructions to claim your rewards.
If you are unaware of the arena schedule, you may check by clicking here.





We sincerely hope that these changes will compensate for the lack of population and will encourage you all to participate in PvP.
All of them (except the first one) are now live on both TrueWoW and PrimalWoW.
Now get out there, queue up and join the fight!

With best regards,
TrueWoW Staff.

Re: New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 30 Apr 2020 19:46
by Dreadnought101
So what is applied to Primal? And will Primal be affected by these changes when going to wrath?

Re: New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 30 Apr 2020 19:51
by Axis
Dreadnought101 wrote:
30 Apr 2020 19:46
So what is applied to Primal? And will Primal be affected by these changes when going to wrath?
Everything except the first item.
These changes will remain live until otherwise deemed necessary for removal or adjustment.
I've added [TW & PW] tags to the title and added this to the bottom of the post to clear up confusion.

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 30 Apr 2020 19:57
by Dreadnought101
Roel wrote:
30 Apr 2020 19:18
5. RBG selection is now smarter. It shall rotate between available BGs and will prioritize Warsong Gulch for 2v2. If there is higher subsequent activity, Eye of the Storm or Arathi Basin will start instead. Strand of the Ancients, Isle of Conquest and Alterac Valley will require more BG activity (and players in queue) before they start.
So does this mean it will exclude WSG when you get numbers good enough for Eye of the Storm/Arathi? and exclude all 3 when you hit IoC, Alterac, Strands? Also I find it strange that Strands would not be in the same group as EoE and Arathi 15v15.

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 30 Apr 2020 20:02
by Bloodshade
Everyone went bonkers when I proposed 2 weekly flushes 1-2years ago lmao, nice tho

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 30 Apr 2020 21:09
by ribbaribbahey
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Thank you for the concern but I don't see how this makes the scene more appealing to new players. They still gonna try one BG, see that they can't compete, have a second one for assurance, and then leave the scene for good.

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 30 Apr 2020 22:53
by koga_kofa
If the Primalwow players get to wotlk ca there be combined bgs and rhc for there to be less waiting time.

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 01 May 2020 00:26
by bobsmyname
koga_kofa wrote:
30 Apr 2020 22:53
If the Primalwow players get to wotlk ca there be combined bgs and rhc for there to be less waiting time.
Please no? That would literally mean s5 players fighting s8 players

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 01 May 2020 00:46
by Axis
That isn't going to happen until after the merge.

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 01 May 2020 00:50
by bobsmyname
Roel wrote:
30 Apr 2020 19:18
4. The first RBG win of the day will now grant 3x more rewards (both honor and arena points).
All subsequent wins and losses thereafter will also be affected by the current 3x honor rate that was implemented long ago.
Is this also applied to weekend Call to Arms? (Same as rbg but weekend only, and bg specific)

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 01 May 2020 17:44
by Roel
We had to revert the RBG bonus because apparently this was already affected by the increased honor rate, so more honor was given than we intended. But the extra arena points from the first win still remain, this should indeed also apply to Call to Arms.

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 02 May 2020 19:40
by Roel
Another change added:

There is no more rating loss below 1500 rating and losses will allow a slow climb to 1500. This is meant to benefit low geared teams. Getting above 1500 rating still requires a sufficient amount of victories.

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 04 May 2020 03:48
by Wilcox
great work!

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 05 May 2020 19:26
by Roel

If you don't manage to do the required 10 arena matches, they will carry over to the next flush. So for the TW realm you could do 2 matches a day and get a flush after 5 days if you want.
This will go live with the update tomorrow. Any teams that missed a recent flush because of this will get those matches added for the next time they play arena.

Re: [TW & PW] New Arena and RBG Changes

Posted: 08 Jun 2020 04:45
by psycroptyk
from what ive seen so far on is that the new system is very rewarding for the winning team and very penalizing for the losing team, not sure if its working as intended or not