Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
This is a list of currently obtainable items, with the best possible dps values for pre raid BiS. Keep in mind that Base stats generate more stats with pally/ druid buffs, and modifiers such as raw attack power or crit rating do not.
Stat break downs for rogues @ lvl 60 on the 3.3.5 client are:
1 Agi = 1 attack power and 0.04% crit
1 Str = 1 attack power
14 crit rating = 1% crit
10 hit rating = 1% hit
10 haste rating = 1% haste
3 expertise rating = 1 expertise
Head
Shadowcraft cap http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=16707
total attack power = 46
total crit % 1.157
Neck
Mark of Fording http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=15411
total attack power = 26
total crit % 1
Shoulder
Truestrike Shoulders http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=12927
total attack power = 24
total hit % 2
Cloak
Cape of the Black Baron http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=13340
total attack power = 35
total crit % 0.6
Chest
Cadaverous Armor http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=14637
total attack power = 76
total crit % 0.32
Wrist
Bracers of the Eclipse http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=18375
total attack power = 34
total crit % 0.4
Hands
Devilsaur Gauntlets http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=15063
total attack power = 28
total crit % 1
Plus 2% hit from bonus
Waist
Shadowcraft Belt http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=16713
total attack power = 32
total crit % 0.56
total hit % 0.9
Legs
Devilsaur Leggings http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=15062
total attack power = 46
total crit % 1
Feet
Swiftwalker Boots http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=12553
total attack power = 25
total crit % 0.84
Ring
Tarnished Elven Ring http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=18500
total attack power = 15
total crit % 0.6
total hit % 1
I would use two of these rings currently to keep my hit % higher when I change gear with raid upgrades.
Trinkets
Strength of the High Chief http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=34423
total attack power = 50
With the Hoj proc being so low right now for a second trinket slot you need to determine between; 20 ap (Hoj), 2% crit (Black Hands Breath), or 2% hit (Royal seal of Eldre'Thalas)
As for current combat specs, Hack and slash procs seem to be relatively low on the damage end, and just a low proc rate in general.
I have yet to test combat daggers so feel free to post any data.
Currently the easiest spec to get weapons for is Combat maces. Up to 15% ignore armor is a nice passive spec to start with.
Main hand
Ironfoe http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=11684
Mass of McGowan http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=13006
total attack power = 10
Off Hand
Hand of Edward the Odd http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=2243
Proc = 32% haste
Feel free to post any suggestions that you feel I may have missed. Again not all gear has been tested and this list may change.
Stat break downs for rogues @ lvl 60 on the 3.3.5 client are:
1 Agi = 1 attack power and 0.04% crit
1 Str = 1 attack power
14 crit rating = 1% crit
10 hit rating = 1% hit
10 haste rating = 1% haste
3 expertise rating = 1 expertise
Head
Shadowcraft cap http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=16707
total attack power = 46
total crit % 1.157
Neck
Mark of Fording http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=15411
total attack power = 26
total crit % 1
Shoulder
Truestrike Shoulders http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=12927
total attack power = 24
total hit % 2
Cloak
Cape of the Black Baron http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=13340
total attack power = 35
total crit % 0.6
Chest
Cadaverous Armor http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=14637
total attack power = 76
total crit % 0.32
Wrist
Bracers of the Eclipse http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=18375
total attack power = 34
total crit % 0.4
Hands
Devilsaur Gauntlets http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=15063
total attack power = 28
total crit % 1
Plus 2% hit from bonus
Waist
Shadowcraft Belt http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=16713
total attack power = 32
total crit % 0.56
total hit % 0.9
Legs
Devilsaur Leggings http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=15062
total attack power = 46
total crit % 1
Feet
Swiftwalker Boots http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=12553
total attack power = 25
total crit % 0.84
Ring
Tarnished Elven Ring http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=18500
total attack power = 15
total crit % 0.6
total hit % 1
I would use two of these rings currently to keep my hit % higher when I change gear with raid upgrades.
Trinkets
Strength of the High Chief http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=34423
total attack power = 50
With the Hoj proc being so low right now for a second trinket slot you need to determine between; 20 ap (Hoj), 2% crit (Black Hands Breath), or 2% hit (Royal seal of Eldre'Thalas)
As for current combat specs, Hack and slash procs seem to be relatively low on the damage end, and just a low proc rate in general.
I have yet to test combat daggers so feel free to post any data.
Currently the easiest spec to get weapons for is Combat maces. Up to 15% ignore armor is a nice passive spec to start with.
Main hand
Ironfoe http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=11684
Mass of McGowan http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=13006
total attack power = 10
Off Hand
Hand of Edward the Odd http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=2243
Proc = 32% haste
Feel free to post any suggestions that you feel I may have missed. Again not all gear has been tested and this list may change.
Last edited by M3star on 08 Aug 2015 16:15, edited 1 time in total.
Thillad lvl 60 Thunderfury Tank RIP
Juke lvl 60 rogue - Officer - MAPLE SYRUP
Juke lvl 60 rogue - Officer - MAPLE SYRUP
Re: Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
What about thrown/ranged for stats?
Precisely Calibrated Boomstick ?
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=2100
Precisely Calibrated Boomstick ?
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=2100
Re: Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
Precisely Calibrated Boomstick is more of a PvP item. It is a nice filler until you get the hit bow, But hit rating is hard to come by with pre raid gear and its dps value is to high to over look.
Thillad lvl 60 Thunderfury Tank RIP
Juke lvl 60 rogue - Officer - MAPLE SYRUP
Juke lvl 60 rogue - Officer - MAPLE SYRUP
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Re: Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
In 6 peice Shadowcraft I was able to pull more dps than those Rogues w/o the Shadowcraft set. I also tested Combat swords (Dal'rend's) with the 6 peice and did 830ish dps on Garr fully raid buffed with a Feral Druid. Currently with my daggers and 6 peice i'm about 100 dps ahead of the other rogues in MS. Do you not think Shadowcraft is worth BiS over random peices? Also HoJ worked very very well with combat swords. Proccs procc proccs. It's all chance ofc though, and HoJ's 2% procced more than the 5% you get from imp swords. That being said I think swords are worthless and if i had a McGowan I feel i would have busted 900 dps that week.
Re: Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
Confirmed 6 piece Shadowcraft is BiS atm. Phase 1 ony i capped out at 1089 dps due to energy return from the set bonus. I will update the list again as i factor in some gear i am still trying to obtain for testing.
Thillad lvl 60 Thunderfury Tank RIP
Juke lvl 60 rogue - Officer - MAPLE SYRUP
Juke lvl 60 rogue - Officer - MAPLE SYRUP
Re: Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
Once you guys can get 4 pieces of tier 0.5 you're going to destroy meters!
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Re: Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
I great idea would be posting where the items drop or what quest you get them from. Atm when i click the links im sent to a website with very little information.
Re: Obtainable BiS guide (Rogue)
Openwow does tell you where to get the items in question at the bottom of the page in the table it says dropped by or obtained by.
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