Me agreeing that a buff wouldn't hurt does not mean I am agreeing with your points or suggestions. There is a big difference between reducing cooldowns on multi-target abilities and increasing single target damage.Scen wrote: ↑07 Oct 2017 02:14[...]
This is you agreeing that prot pala needs a buff.
You keep bringing up my gear and progress as an arguement that prot doesn't need any help. I am not the only person saying these things and I've talked to other higher geared and more progressed prot paladins saying similar things. You're ignoring the progression/gear of others and targetting me.
I still don't understand what you mean by me ignoring anyone or what this claim about me "targetting" you is.
I simply didn't like the way you act as if threat was nonexistent for other tanks.
Or the way you act entitled towards the staff for a solution to something that to a lot of people (who you are ignoring) is not a major issue.
Then saying staff is just taking an easy way out even though they are taking part in the discussion.
So I replied once to that and you act like I have always had some sort of agenda against you?
I am not using your lack of gear or progress as a counter argument to the buff discussion. I am just trying to tell you to try it out first. Your only argument in the discussion about whether or not a buff is needed is just that other people say so, while just as many disagree.
No realistic buff could help you in the situation you are in at the moment, which is trying to tank heroics in gear that is just not good enough. You'll have to put in the time to level Mining and/or Blacksmithing, or hope to pick up tank items while joining as DPS or Healer (it's the same for warriors, only they don't even have the option to heal). This is not me attacking you btw.
A short excursion back to topic:
Exactly what I am trying to say. If DPS wasn't able to ever pull aggro then what would be the point of a threat system in the first place? Even as a Hunter with Misdirection and Feign Death I still have to watch my threat, and I personally prefer Paladins over Warriors by miles in any dungeon I can think of.Fitzpatrick wrote: ↑07 Oct 2017 02:24Also, my main warlock can fairly easily pull aggro off any tank - especially in AE. That's not a paladin thing, thats a TBC Primal thing.