Holy Paladin PVE guide.

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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.

#16 » Post by Relina » 26 Dec 2014 01:34

The spec which Justice is espousing as his choice for endgame raiding is infact a spec many a retail holy paladin (& I myself on spermik/truewow) used to have while gearing up.
But at ICC level of gear, the spec with Divine Guardian is much more useful due to crit's value being substantially reduced with the Illumination nerf in patch 3.2 while, Divine Guardian is very valuable in terms of raid utility.

As for Improved RF, threat should never be a factor in boss encounters(provided u have semi-decent tanks) unless there is say adds which spawn far away from the tank which needs to be picked up, but even then RF can help out as you can simply stand closer to the tank thereby drawing those adds away from other healers, who I might add are way more squishy than you.
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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.

#17 » Post by Rascall » 26 Dec 2014 09:36

divine guardian is so OP that it got removed since cataclysm...
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#18 » Post by KingOfPredators » 04 Feb 2015 02:42

If hpala steals agro from tank with RF on, that tank should stop tanking.

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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.

#19 » Post by Wilcox » 04 Feb 2015 10:55

to be honest i wouldnt take aura mastery, imo its either a pvp spell or an optional for certain bosses such as heroic LK, ita not otherwise that vital and that 1 point could be used otherwise more productively

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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.

#20 » Post by Justicelight » 04 Feb 2015 11:56

I mostly use it at Marrow bonestorm, BQ fly phase, Sindragosa last phase and Lich king fights for the damage reduction only. Yea it's not a must have spell, it depends on what you seek to do with your paladin.
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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.

#21 » Post by Wilcox » 04 Feb 2015 13:49

of course, was only sharing mu point of view

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#22 » Post by Bluebell » 04 Feb 2015 20:54

My problem with Aura Mastery is that if every Paladin has it, it's useless for most of them as they won't have the correct aura.
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#23 » Post by Relina » 04 Feb 2015 21:04

Its true, Aura Mastery is useless if the paladins in the raid are unable to communicate or have no desire to cooperate with other members & just set aura as fire/forget(if they use it at all).
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#24 » Post by Justicelight » 04 Feb 2015 22:10

As a ret I always aura mastery on bone storm for example with retri aura for more damage taken by boss on hit xD
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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.

#25 » Post by Wilcox » 04 Feb 2015 23:10

yeah well

you, me and blue can be among the minority but this guide concerns the majority so... :d

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#26 » Post by Fastor » 17 Feb 2015 14:11

Just checked other classes talents and it seems that you would use Improved Concentration Aura only if you respect Arcane Mages.
Also it only takes 1/3 so Mage could use 3/5 Arcane Stability. Using 3/3 on ICA is waste, just need 1/3.

Btw Aura mastery, you mean, boosted pony aura? :D

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#27 » Post by cherno666 » 17 Feb 2015 14:26

tell me why would you use solace as holy paladin? just gofor Talisman of resurgence , intelect > spell power.
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#28 » Post by Fastor » 17 Feb 2015 14:32

cherno666 wrote:tell me why would you use solace as holy paladin? just gofor Talisman of resurgence , intelect > spell power.
Side effect of item. Its 590SP every 2 min, or constant MP5. MP5 win here.

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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.

#29 » Post by cherno666 » 17 Feb 2015 14:39

intelect > everything as holy pala. mp5 realy? as holy pala you dont need mp5 , you have divine plea and meteorite as your mana cooldowns , you ahould almost never go out of mana . which leaves you to chose spell power or intellect. also the activate effect of it with spell power bonus every 2 minutes will save your ass when needed heavier healing, so coming to that concluaion, you choose either mana regeneration which you dont really need as holy paladin or choose to heal heavier?
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Re: Holy Paladin PVE guide.

#30 » Post by Fastor » 17 Feb 2015 14:44

Heavier than one shot full HP heal is, well waste :) Once you reach enough SP in raid your Holy Light is able to heal DPS to max with just cast, only tanks need to cast twice or three times but there is second heal for it so np. Also just put Becon on Tank and forget him, which is better solution.

So yea when you reach that strong Holy Light, you can start going for other stats, such as MP5 ofc.

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