Blood DK dps (pve)
Blood DK dps (pve)
(This is the first Guide i made, tell me if there thing that are missing =3)
Hello,
more and more people ask me about blood dps to ask if its Viable or not.
Yes it is!
In this topic, ill do a full guide about the Blood dk dps spec.
1.0 Introduction to Blood dps
2.0 Talent
2.1 Glyph
3.0 Rotation
4.0 what is bug about this tree?
5.0 Overview and Conclusion
1.0 Introduction
Somehow, people think Blood dk dps isnt good and can only pull crapy dps...
Well it isn't true! Blood dps is a high damaging two handed class.
This dps was took from Sindi fight, 25 man normal, when i was tombed twice during the fight
Dps from DBS 10 man
Dps from Fester 10 man
Your dps is mainly based on your melee attack and Heart Strike.
To be viable, Blood dps need to gem full arp to get to at least to 90% arp (10% bonus from talent) This is the way you will do the most dps for even low strenph.
When you are fully gemmed as Arp, you can start to change gem into either Strenph, or crit rate (carefull with crit cap)
2.0 Talent
For talent, there is few variation, but the main tree is mostly the main. YOur tree should be 51/0/20
You can also change 1 point from Blood craced Strike to Epidemic if you are worry about disease timer.
2.1 Glyph
For glyph, there is two option.
Glyph of Death Strike
Glyph fo Dark Death
Glyph of Dancing Rune weapon
or
Glyph of Death Strike
Glyph of Dark Death
Glyph of Disease
i sugest for you to take the secound option to start with this dps spec. doign a pestilence here and there to refresh disease. But, for maximum damage, you want Glyph of Dancing Rune weapon. (It will last longer, meaning more damage from it)
3.0
Rotation is fairly simple.
For glyph set with Dancing rune weapon, you do it like this
IT > PS > HS (x2) > DS > HoW (horn of Winter) > Death Coil > DS > Hs > HS (then repeat)
for Glyph of Disease
IT > PS > HS (x2) > DS > HoW > DC > DS > Pestilence > HS (x5 that the funny part )
It is important to refresh disease as soon the are of, or to refresh them with the Glyph
4.0 Bug
few skill are bug in this tree sadly, and i would demend for them to be fix if possible =3
DRW (Dancing Rune Weapon) : This skill is only half Working. The damage from spell is apply (if oyu hit of 10k, you will see a 5k at the same time from your weapon) but the weapon doesnt apply its disease as it should, neither does it apply the melee attack of the player.
Blood Worm : Seriously, this talent make it pitiful. This is the reason people look down on blood dk. Thos agressive noob little worm. First the spawn number of worm is wrong. Only 1 spawn when it should be 2-4. Then, the damage they do. Blood worm should Give you 300 dps. right now, they only pull 30 dps on the best of they day.
Blood-craced blade: This talent is bug as the disease multiplier isnt affecting the damage at all.
5.0 Overview and conclusion
Blood dps spec as lot of good point, and it is a spec that can be use as pve and pull a great dps.
Most peple with them fail becose they dont know how to gem, the rotation and how to do they spell. But this guide is there for them.
IF i forgot anything, please mantion it to me, ill make modification also time from time.
Hello,
more and more people ask me about blood dps to ask if its Viable or not.
Yes it is!
In this topic, ill do a full guide about the Blood dk dps spec.
1.0 Introduction to Blood dps
2.0 Talent
2.1 Glyph
3.0 Rotation
4.0 what is bug about this tree?
5.0 Overview and Conclusion
1.0 Introduction
Somehow, people think Blood dk dps isnt good and can only pull crapy dps...
Well it isn't true! Blood dps is a high damaging two handed class.
This dps was took from Sindi fight, 25 man normal, when i was tombed twice during the fight
Dps from DBS 10 man
Dps from Fester 10 man
Your dps is mainly based on your melee attack and Heart Strike.
To be viable, Blood dps need to gem full arp to get to at least to 90% arp (10% bonus from talent) This is the way you will do the most dps for even low strenph.
When you are fully gemmed as Arp, you can start to change gem into either Strenph, or crit rate (carefull with crit cap)
2.0 Talent
For talent, there is few variation, but the main tree is mostly the main. YOur tree should be 51/0/20
You can also change 1 point from Blood craced Strike to Epidemic if you are worry about disease timer.
2.1 Glyph
For glyph, there is two option.
Glyph of Death Strike
Glyph fo Dark Death
Glyph of Dancing Rune weapon
or
Glyph of Death Strike
Glyph of Dark Death
Glyph of Disease
i sugest for you to take the secound option to start with this dps spec. doign a pestilence here and there to refresh disease. But, for maximum damage, you want Glyph of Dancing Rune weapon. (It will last longer, meaning more damage from it)
3.0
Rotation is fairly simple.
For glyph set with Dancing rune weapon, you do it like this
IT > PS > HS (x2) > DS > HoW (horn of Winter) > Death Coil > DS > Hs > HS (then repeat)
for Glyph of Disease
IT > PS > HS (x2) > DS > HoW > DC > DS > Pestilence > HS (x5 that the funny part )
It is important to refresh disease as soon the are of, or to refresh them with the Glyph
4.0 Bug
few skill are bug in this tree sadly, and i would demend for them to be fix if possible =3
DRW (Dancing Rune Weapon) : This skill is only half Working. The damage from spell is apply (if oyu hit of 10k, you will see a 5k at the same time from your weapon) but the weapon doesnt apply its disease as it should, neither does it apply the melee attack of the player.
Blood Worm : Seriously, this talent make it pitiful. This is the reason people look down on blood dk. Thos agressive noob little worm. First the spawn number of worm is wrong. Only 1 spawn when it should be 2-4. Then, the damage they do. Blood worm should Give you 300 dps. right now, they only pull 30 dps on the best of they day.
Blood-craced blade: This talent is bug as the disease multiplier isnt affecting the damage at all.
5.0 Overview and conclusion
Blood dps spec as lot of good point, and it is a spec that can be use as pve and pull a great dps.
Most peple with them fail becose they dont know how to gem, the rotation and how to do they spell. But this guide is there for them.
IF i forgot anything, please mantion it to me, ill make modification also time from time.
Last edited by Kynyssael on 23 Mar 2013 03:40, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Kudos on the guide.
The reason most ppl ignore Blood tree for dps is that the frost tree is soo bugged in a beneficial way atm that anyone with decent gear can out dps / dmg a similar geared blood dk.
But how abt posting a few Deathbringer / Festergut & Rotface recounts since Sindragosa is not a decent way to compare dps.
For those who want an indepth guide look here.
& for a gear list here, just scroll to the appropriate section.
Links fixed.
The reason most ppl ignore Blood tree for dps is that the frost tree is soo bugged in a beneficial way atm that anyone with decent gear can out dps / dmg a similar geared blood dk.
But how abt posting a few Deathbringer / Festergut & Rotface recounts since Sindragosa is not a decent way to compare dps.
For those who want an indepth guide look here.
& for a gear list here, just scroll to the appropriate section.
Links fixed.
Last edited by Relina on 18 Nov 2014 06:48, edited 3 times in total.
Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Pretty nice guide overall, although it could use a section on stats and probably a BiS listing. Also, some grammar cleanup and maybe a bit of work on the font size and colours of the headers so that we can differentiate the headers from the main body of the guide.
Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
I didnt put Festergut / DBS recount for the simple reason that i dont ahve a recount of them at the present time. when ill have one, i'll post it =3
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Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
I'm surprised nobody touches on a huge benefit that blood has. It's a great boon to healers as Blood DPS require virtually no healing whatsoever from outside sources. Mark of Blood is waaay too overlooked. It's more than worth a minuscule dps decrease in order to become a boon to the MT... unless it's bugged that is. Utility matters. Nobody cares who tops the damage meters when the raid is wiped.
Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Fully fixed blood should be topping dps on single targets (only people like Fakepro thinks it sawks...cheers mate)...mark of blood is rarely in dps spec...rather a must have for blood tanking...u might rather want to maximise your dps income from talents (to shut up people that think blood dps is not viable for raiding)...dks have enough survival abilities...anti magic shell icebound fortitude...not to mention blood self-healing...
Rascall Retribution/Holy
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
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Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Relina wrote:Kudos on the guide.
The reason most ppl ignore Blood tree for dps is that the frost tree is soo bugged in a beneficial way atm that anyone with decent gear can out dps / dmg a similar geared blood dk.
But how abt posting a few Deathbringer / Festergut & Rotface recounts since Sindragosa is not a decent way to compare dps.
For those who want an indepth guide look here.
& for a gear list here, just scroll to the appropriate section.
The links didnt work for me
Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Too many things change in a year and half... I guessprometheus wrote:Relina wrote:Kudos on the guide.
The reason most ppl ignore Blood tree for dps is that the frost tree is soo bugged in a beneficial way atm that anyone with decent gear can out dps / dmg a similar geared blood dk.
But how abt posting a few Deathbringer / Festergut & Rotface recounts since Sindragosa is not a decent way to compare dps.
For those who want an indepth guide look here.
& for a gear list here, just scroll to the appropriate section.
The links didnt work for me
Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Yes EJ had a forum revamp in the last year so most of the older links are dead, time to launch the wayback machine , now the links in the original post should be working .
Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Yeah the epic Feral guide is gone as well /cry
Elder Myaoming (aka Slardar): Level 80 Tauren Feral PvE/PvP
Siforosse of the Undercity: Level 80 Undead Affliction Warlock PvP/Demon PvE
Zibuluge of the Ashen Verdict: Level 80 Human Frost DK PvP/PvE
Inverse: Level 80 Human Fire Mage PvP/PvE
Slar: Level 80 Night Elf Resto/Feral Druid PvE
Siforosse of the Undercity: Level 80 Undead Affliction Warlock PvP/Demon PvE
Zibuluge of the Ashen Verdict: Level 80 Human Frost DK PvP/PvE
Inverse: Level 80 Human Fire Mage PvP/PvE
Slar: Level 80 Night Elf Resto/Feral Druid PvE
- Deathswalker
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Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
May i ask which blood talents/glyphs are still bugged?
When i played here a year/half a year ago i remember DRW and bloodworms to be quite buggy, and i'm not sure about the other talents.
When i played here a year/half a year ago i remember DRW and bloodworms to be quite buggy, and i'm not sure about the other talents.
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Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Afaik the last core update should have fixed all the old bugs, only one that exists is pets (DRW / worms / ghoul) not attacking bosses at times till you move around or some boss ability damages the pet/you, due to TC's poor pet AI assist coding.
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Re: Blood DK dps (pve)
Awesome
Food is not the answer. It's the question. Yes is the answer.
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