tier tokens on 25man

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tier tokens on 25man

#1 » Post by natnat123 » 10 Aug 2017 00:53

heya, i think 1 tier token for 25 man bosses is silly, and blizz realised that when they changed it. some will agree and some will not. but i think the drop should be changed to 2. changing it later on when alot of people will no longer need it is pointless. i know the server is suppose to be blizzlike and progressive. but even blizz realised the drop for 25 man was retarded. i mean 2 items for a 25 man raid? thats really stupid. even all the bosses in kara drop 2 items and prince drops even more. and thats for 10 man. makes no sense having 2 items per week for 25 people. im not here to argue about whats right and what isnt. im here to discuss it and i think a few others would like to see a change made also.

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Re: tier tokens on 25man

#2 » Post by lrctgl » 10 Aug 2017 00:55

i agree +1

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Re: tier tokens on 25man

#3 » Post by zackforester » 10 Aug 2017 09:12

I agree. 25 mans should be dropping 4 items. 2 Tier Tokens and 2 Random Items from it's loot table.

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#4 » Post by Nevermind » 10 Aug 2017 09:23

100% agree.

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#5 » Post by HerFlick » 10 Aug 2017 09:25

+1

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#6 » Post by jetteroo » 10 Aug 2017 10:01

Agree. We should change things if it's for the better. ESP if blizzard did it anyway

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#7 » Post by kronic » 10 Aug 2017 11:06

Its important to understand the big picture here when deciding on stuff like this. So the current path is that on black temple/hyjal release, all 25 mans drop 2 tokens. On sunwell release all 25 mans drop 3 tokens.

The problem we face now is that most guild have only been killing all T4 token dropping bosses for a month and SSC/TK are just around the corner. I am definitely in favor of making 2xT4 tokens drop on SSC/TK release and I think everyone in this thread and all the other times this was brought up are as well.

We should discuss if we think 2xT5 tokens on release is a good idea, I think it is but my only concern is that T5 will be out for a while and I don't want to see every guild rocking tier 5 purples in 2-3 months. To me, tier pieces are special and fortunately they are bis in TBC T5 onwards so they are extra special compared to vanilla tier sets. I'm definitely leaning towards 2 tokens for all tiers but I think the discussion should be specific to T5 on release.

TLDR:
2xT4 tokens now :cross:
2xT4 tokens on SSC/TK release :tick:
2xT5 tokens on SSC/TK release :tick:

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Re: tier tokens on 25man

#8 » Post by flosr1 » 11 Aug 2017 12:44

i agree, all t4 bosses should drop 2 tokens and at least 1 random epic item. i am not necessarily for 2 randoms here, but i do not mind it either. maghteridon is of course an exception, since you spend almost as much time there as in gruuls lair, with all the trash and preparing assignments etc.

i like this server, because it wants to be blizzlike, challenging and progressive. thats actually the reason i play here, despite all the problems since TBC release. but wanting to be blizzlike does nit necessarily mean you are blizzlike. with all the changes and adjustmends being made now and in the past, this server is everything but not blizzlike. ofc, there is a reason behind it and i agree with most things. but 1 t4 token per boss for 25 people is just retarded. blizzard realised it and they changed it. they changed it too late tho, but they weren't be able to turn back time.
why is the same mistake being made on this server now, altho everybody knows it is a mistake.

it wouldn't all be so bad if stuff like that would not have happened before.
aq40 release took much longer than expected, in the end no one really needed loot from first few bosses but only a few people had the chance to get the really good loot from c'thun.
same with naxx. t3 tokens for bracers, shoulders, boots, belt were handed out for OS and alts already but in the end, there was only a few weeks left for KT, because 4HM were fucked ob for a long time.
well it happened and it is history now. but haven't you learned anything from it?


TBC launched, heroic loot was fucked up and buggy from the start (and it still is, same loot twice from some bosses, some bosses onyl drop 2 rares, etc). i complained about this a few weeks ago, but only thing that happened was, that the server'S whiteknights came charging in and defending it all with questionable stuff like "people have everything on farm already and want to raid". ofc they want to raid and i had already 200 heroic tokens at that time that i did not need, but i wasn't able to get some pre raid BIS pieces, because they just did not drop at all due to bugs.
so why do a similar mistake again now with the tokens?

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Re: tier tokens on 25man

#9 » Post by Xenitron » 11 Aug 2017 19:20

how many more posts and threads for this topic hasn't it already been discussed?

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Re: tier tokens on 25man

#10 » Post by flosr1 » 12 Oct 2017 00:27

so do Gruul, HKM and Magtheridon drop an additional t4 token now, that SSC is released?

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Re: tier tokens on 25man

#11 » Post by zackforester » 12 Oct 2017 00:38

T4 bosses need to be updated to drop the second token.

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#12 » Post by jgun17 » 12 Oct 2017 00:41

+1
Subtlety

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#13 » Post by natnat123 » 12 Oct 2017 00:45

zackforester wrote:
12 Oct 2017 00:38
T4 bosses need to be updated to drop the second token.
yup. they do

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Re: tier tokens on 25man

#14 » Post by lrctgl » 12 Oct 2017 00:51

zackforester wrote:
12 Oct 2017 00:38
T4 bosses need to be updated to drop the second token.
this^

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Re: tier tokens on 25man

#15 » Post by kurthos » 12 Oct 2017 04:17

Before you guys go on, this is already planned to be changed next week.

Pitchforks and torches down for now.

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