about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
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isn't that Deterrence immune to physical hit ? when player cast Deterrence , they appear around body , so other player can't attack from behind.any idea?
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isn't that Deterrence immune to physical hit ? when player cast Deterrence , they appear around body , so other player can't attack from behind.any idea?
Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Dodge is a form of melee mitigation where the entire melee swing is avoided.
Only close range melee attacks can be dodged; a ranged attack or a spell cannot be dodged. Players can only dodge attacks if they are facing their opponent, however a mob can dodge attacks that are from behind. Incapacitated targets (stunned for example) cannot dodge.
Block is the ability of a shield to absorb melee damage in addition to its armor value.
Blocked atacks against players cannot be a critical strike.It should be noted, however, that only special attacks—i.e. yellow-damage instant attacks such as Claw, Overpower, and Sinister Strike, and yellow-damage on-next-swing attacks such as Heroic Strike and Raptor Strike—have been observed as inflicting blocked crits. Normal white-damage auto-attacks have never been seen inflicting a blocked crit, and are probably subject to the same mutually-exclusive-attack-result rules that attacks made against players are. Attacks from the rear cannot be Blocked.
Parry Targets of melee attacks can have a chance to parry each incoming frontal attack. Miss chance and Critical chance are unmodified by Parry, so you're not "waisting" Parries on misses nor are you able to Parry a Critical. A successful parry nullifies the attack (for the attacker it is like a miss) and reduces the swing timer of the defender. Attacks from the rear cannot be parried.
Although about Deterrence.
WotLK Patch 3.2.0 (2009-08-04): This ability now allows the hunter to parry spells and attacks from behind as well as in front. Now has a new visual spell effect.
That means you were either incapacitated (stunned for example) or it bugged. Anyway nothing to complain since you actually can parry even critical strikes on the server (don't think it is usually like that).
Only close range melee attacks can be dodged; a ranged attack or a spell cannot be dodged. Players can only dodge attacks if they are facing their opponent, however a mob can dodge attacks that are from behind. Incapacitated targets (stunned for example) cannot dodge.
Block is the ability of a shield to absorb melee damage in addition to its armor value.
Blocked atacks against players cannot be a critical strike.It should be noted, however, that only special attacks—i.e. yellow-damage instant attacks such as Claw, Overpower, and Sinister Strike, and yellow-damage on-next-swing attacks such as Heroic Strike and Raptor Strike—have been observed as inflicting blocked crits. Normal white-damage auto-attacks have never been seen inflicting a blocked crit, and are probably subject to the same mutually-exclusive-attack-result rules that attacks made against players are. Attacks from the rear cannot be Blocked.
Parry Targets of melee attacks can have a chance to parry each incoming frontal attack. Miss chance and Critical chance are unmodified by Parry, so you're not "waisting" Parries on misses nor are you able to Parry a Critical. A successful parry nullifies the attack (for the attacker it is like a miss) and reduces the swing timer of the defender. Attacks from the rear cannot be parried.
Although about Deterrence.
WotLK Patch 3.2.0 (2009-08-04): This ability now allows the hunter to parry spells and attacks from behind as well as in front. Now has a new visual spell effect.
That means you were either incapacitated (stunned for example) or it bugged. Anyway nothing to complain since you actually can parry even critical strikes on the server (don't think it is usually like that).
Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Why do you think when hunters use that they start to backpedal?
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Tho sometimes happens with cyclone too,when ur cycloned you still take white damage
As you should deflect all you shouldnt be able to be stunned or be under similar effects after casted deterrence as there is no ability that isnt is those 3 groups: melee attack (parry/dodge) , ranged attack (miss? / deflect) , spell (deflect). The only thing that can touch you are DoTs if you had them b4 casting deterrence and AoE(not sure about aoes)
Don't go crazy on this because in arena if someone sees you popping deterrence he just waits doing something else or switchs target
As you should deflect all you shouldnt be able to be stunned or be under similar effects after casted deterrence as there is no ability that isnt is those 3 groups: melee attack (parry/dodge) , ranged attack (miss? / deflect) , spell (deflect). The only thing that can touch you are DoTs if you had them b4 casting deterrence and AoE(not sure about aoes)
Don't go crazy on this because in arena if someone sees you popping deterrence he just waits doing something else or switchs target
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Deterrence should have a 100% chance to deflect spells , on top of the parry/dodge. so it should deflect all spells except for Chaos Bolt , which ignores all dmg reducing abilities. Unfortunately things like stunning physical attacks are getting through. ~ i'll try to test to see if Overpowers are able to be granted if I'm facing away from the warrior, as dodges should only be possible when facing an enemy. Deterrence should grant 100% parry from behind as well as in front, so I'm curious to see what the result will be. Seems I have been Overpowered from behind a few times, but have no evidence. I bet that sounds funny
btw~"Block is the ability of a shield to absorb melee damage in addition to its armor value." Is it possible to block w no shield equipped, just based on armor/ defense rating? I thought that wasn't possible in pvp
btw~"Block is the ability of a shield to absorb melee damage in addition to its armor value." Is it possible to block w no shield equipped, just based on armor/ defense rating? I thought that wasn't possible in pvp
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Deflecting is now a damage reduction? That's a new one to me.
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
It just bugs sometimes for some unknown reason, Kniteknite.
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
If you are talking about cheap shot then it should go through,so beware not to detterence when rogue stealths.
Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Judging by the combat log you probably were stunned right before casting deterrence (but that would be weird considering how intolerant trinity is to stuff like double sap double blind and so on)
Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
This is old by the way.
And for what Boxis said, it's true. Every attack that requires the player to be behind his target can go through Deterrance.
And for what Boxis said, it's true. Every attack that requires the player to be behind his target can go through Deterrance.
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
I think it needs to be fixed so that the deflect property is first, Blizzard changed it to just deflect and took out the parry/dodge, most likely because of this bug, the parry/dodge from behind not working, also, Overpower is an attack that procs from dodge, but should be able to be DEFLECTED , if not dodged/parried. It can miss too, but i think the deflection aspect of deterrence is not working correctly or in tandem
a few examples http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/407/nm1u.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/24/0ob0.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/96/rg7y.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/600/9d1b.jpg
http://www.wowwiki.com/Deflect http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/203/xwhr.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/706/5g9f.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/600/806v.jpg
a few examples http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/407/nm1u.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/24/0ob0.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/96/rg7y.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/600/9d1b.jpg
http://www.wowwiki.com/Deflect http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/203/xwhr.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/706/5g9f.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/600/806v.jpg
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Just yesterday http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/96/lths.jpg like i said there is something wrong with the way spells and attacks are being treated by Deterrence , some judgements seem to be treated as ranged attacks, and the attacks that should be parried from behind are being treated as though Deterrence cannot parry attacks from behind
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
you CANNOT parry attacks from behindKniteknite wrote:Just yesterday http://imageshack.com/scaled/1600x1200/96/lths.jpg like i said there is something wrong with the way spells and attacks are being treated by Deterrence , some judgements seem to be treated as ranged attacks, and the attacks that should be parried from behind are being treated as though Deterrence cannot parry attacks from behind
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Oh rly? :D:D:D
http://www.wowwiki.com/Deterrence :
" Wrath-Patch 3.2.0 (04-Aug-2009): This ability now allows the hunter to parry spells and attacks from behind as well as in front. Now has a new visual spell effect."
GG.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Deterrence :
" Wrath-Patch 3.2.0 (04-Aug-2009): This ability now allows the hunter to parry spells and attacks from behind as well as in front. Now has a new visual spell effect."
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Re: about Ability of hunter : Deterrence in BG
Judgements are spells. And yeah, it should deflect everything except tthings which are stated to not be dodgeable or parriable such as cheap shot etc
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