Deadly poison proc rate
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Deadly poison proc rate
Hey, opening this to discuss deadly poison application rate for assasination rogues.
Deadly poison (http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=43233) togheter with Improved Poisons talent (http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=21881) makes the Deadly Poison application rate = 50%.
I tested with Deadly Poisoned dagger in mainhand, with enough hit to not miss and here is what happens:
1) http://prntscr.com/coh7cy the debuff drops down to 8 seconds.
2) http://prntscr.com/coh958 6 seconds !!!
All of this was tested with deadly poison in main hand to prevent misses.
So yes, something is off, what do you think? This affects combat rogues aswell.
Deadly poison (http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=43233) togheter with Improved Poisons talent (http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=21881) makes the Deadly Poison application rate = 50%.
I tested with Deadly Poisoned dagger in mainhand, with enough hit to not miss and here is what happens:
1) http://prntscr.com/coh7cy the debuff drops down to 8 seconds.
2) http://prntscr.com/coh958 6 seconds !!!
All of this was tested with deadly poison in main hand to prevent misses.
So yes, something is off, what do you think? This affects combat rogues aswell.
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
This issue could also partially explain why assasination rogue does better dps with 2x Lungbreaker than LK dagger / Lungbreaker.
2xLungbreaker puts deadly on mainhand which prevents the misses but in the other case deadly sits on offhand weapon, which scales even more this presented issue.
2xLungbreaker puts deadly on mainhand which prevents the misses but in the other case deadly sits on offhand weapon, which scales even more this presented issue.
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
Keep in mind, 50% rate does not neccesarily mean 5 out of 10 hits will be definitive appliement
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
I've recently tested DP proc rates. And there's nothing wrong with it.
Yes, DP might drop off, even with a .75 OH. It's rng.
Yes, DP might drop off, even with a .75 OH. It's rng.
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
Not proccing 6 times in a row doesnt seem to be 50% chance for me....
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
must agree on this one. just yesterday I was going mad exactly cuz of that reason. had to use shiv every god damn time to keep it going. maybe it's just luck.. idk but it's shit D
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
Idk, I tested the currrent formula myself and it works on all the eligible races
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
MerelyASetback wrote:Gambler's fallacy.
I`m asking for a normalization which can lead to a limitation of RNG.Eronox wrote:Idk, I tested the currrent formula myself and it works on all the eligible races
How it should happen after normalization:
proc cooldown: -1 -2 proc -1 -2 -3 proc -1 -2 proc
How is happening now: -1 -2 -3 proc -1 -2 -3 -4 proc -1 -2 -3 -4 -5 -6 proc proc proc proc -1 proc -1 -2 proc...and so on.
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
Justicelight wrote:MerelyASetback wrote:Gambler's fallacy.I`m asking for a normalization which can lead to a limitation of RNG.Eronox wrote:Idk, I tested the currrent formula myself and it works on all the eligible races
Assuming we have 1 second wep speed.
How it should happen after normalization:
proc cooldown: -1 -2 proc -1 -2 -3 proc -1 -2 proc
How is happening now: -1 -2 -3 proc -1 -2 -3 -4 proc -1 -2 -3 -4 -5 -6 proc proc proc proc -1 proc -1 -2 proc...and so on.
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
Why?
It wasn't normalized on retail on patch 3.3.5a.
How would you even normalize it?
It wasn't normalized on retail on patch 3.3.5a.
How would you even normalize it?
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Re: Deadly poison proc rate
Ups, sry for double post.
Anyway, I don`t see any ppl supporting this, so I`ll just give up. Maybe will look in some other talents/buffs, because they should really do more dps than at the moment.
Anyway, I don`t see any ppl supporting this, so I`ll just give up. Maybe will look in some other talents/buffs, because they should really do more dps than at the moment.
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