A HUGE MISTAKE

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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#91 » Post by Cover25 » 27 Nov 2012 21:29

Sinnerly wrote:i agree with biscuit on this one

and i forgot bugged kincet bomb on BPC it just knocked my shammy out for 47k

GG on the new stuff in the server
47k? Rofl?

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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#92 » Post by Sinnerly » 27 Nov 2012 21:33

Cover25 wrote:
Sinnerly wrote:i agree with biscuit on this one

and i forgot bugged kincet bomb on BPC it just knocked my shammy out for 47k

GG on the new stuff in the server
47k? Rofl?
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#93 » Post by Cover25 » 27 Nov 2012 21:35

Dude the bombs don't do 47k.

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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#94 » Post by Vaati » 27 Nov 2012 21:41

Maybe he wasn't wearing gear!
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#95 » Post by Sinnerly » 27 Nov 2012 21:46

[22:42:42][R] [???]: Recount - >Septimius< Took Damage From
[22:42:42][R] [???]: 1. Kinetic Bomb 59288 (32%)
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#96 » Post by Sinnerly » 27 Nov 2012 21:46

Vaati wrote:Maybe he wasn't wearing gear!
biscuit don't try to be funny unless you want something to do with me

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and bombs are get bugged and 1 shots people if you raid enough and watch what happens enough you will know
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#97 » Post by Cover25 » 27 Nov 2012 22:02

Sinnerly wrote:[22:42:42][R] [???]: Recount - >Septimius< Took Damage From
[22:42:42][R] [???]: 1. Kinetic Bomb 59288 (32%)
overall=/=Per hit.

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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#98 » Post by Sinnerly » 27 Nov 2012 22:20

well it's lost now after we trying to show someone how to tank BQ but i don't think that overall will give me 59k after 2 or 3 hits

and if this buff isn't back to 30 i don't think you will guild will even down marrow xD on 10n
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#99 » Post by Intervention » 27 Nov 2012 23:28

We'll see how my icc goes on Sunday.
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#100 » Post by Vaati » 28 Nov 2012 00:51

Peith's raid downed Blood Council already without problems in 25 man. So apparantly he CAN get past Marrow.
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#101 » Post by Cover25 » 28 Nov 2012 01:02

Marrow>Down no issues.
LDW>Down no issues.
DBS>Down no issues.
Rot>Down no issues.
Fester>Down no issues.
PP>Down no issues.
BQ>Pending.
DW>Down with a holy paladin/DISC PRIEST HEALING
Sindy>Pending.
LK>pending.

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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#102 » Post by Intervention » 28 Nov 2012 09:31

Yeah but the disc priest was me. Any other and then wipe :lol:
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#103 » Post by Cover25 » 28 Nov 2012 13:05

Oh btw, people were still doing 15K+. There was a paladin who did 22K :/

EDIT: so you're probably thinking "What does that mean?" It means stop complaining and play the game. It's VERY doable just need people with over 110 IQ

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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#104 » Post by Hellsoul » 28 Nov 2012 13:17

Alright, i just spent like an hour reading the whole topic, and from what I've gathered, there are some good arguments on both sides.

Although i'm against the removal of the buff, i have to agree that what partisans of it's removal said is true: the part where Disc (well i think it was disc) recounted which parts of icc were doable or not (Blood was a big no-no, PP was a miracle if downed and i never saw the face of sindy until late April or somthing). That the old TrueWoWians battled through a bugged-ass server for some gear (Spermians did too, from what i see). I remember when the worms on ToC were bugged and my old guild tried to down it and we kept wiping with 4.5k gs + ppl.
And, personnally, I've never hit 6k gs, even though I've had more than 5k gs for more than a year now. When i hit 5.5k gs, i jumped out of joy (it was in January 2012), and since then I've not geared so much.

However, when some ppl say that guilds in retail downed LK without the buff or whatever irritates me a fair bit: we don't, and most probably never will have as skilled players as Paragon or Exodus have (I'm a big fan of Kriparrian btw). The other thing that irritates me a little is the lack of communication and announcements made by Roel and/or the staff (i have no idea who took the decision and who had a say in it or not, so i'm not gonna judge people from just that), but 20% seems like a fair and legitimate value for the buff. I especially liked Disc's inputs in the topic because they are well-structured, clear, helpful and suggested solutions.

On the side of the "QQ'ers". Maur said and made it obvious that the server banner (or wtv it's called) on the private servers ranking lists clearly states that this server is set at 3.3.5a, aka just before Cata, aka the 30% buff. "but RS isn't open" is what you're thinking, right? well it's still 3.3.5a and it's supposed to be the most blizzlike BEFORE cata, so yeah. Some other ppl said interesting things on this side of the debate, but it was too long ago and i already forgot :P.

So, the 20% is a good solution, and maybe making it decrease step by step might be good, like Blizzard increased it by 5% every month approximately, but to at least keep it at a certain level (like 10%). But then again the blizzlike-ness BEFORE Cataclysm is not totally respected, but we'll figure that out later ( :P ).
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Re: A HUGE MISTAKE

#105 » Post by Arvit » 28 Nov 2012 20:40

Cover25 wrote:Marrow>Down no issues.
LDW>Down no issues.
DBS>Down no issues.
Rot>Down no issues.
Fester>Down no issues.
PP>Down no issues.
BQ>Pending.
DW>Down with a holy paladin/DISC PRIEST HEALING
Sindy>Pending.
LK>pending.
With a 20% buff so it still doesn't prove shit.

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