Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
Can anyone confirm whether the debuff provided by the above specs is indeed the same (it should be) but some cats claim that arms´ debuff decreases their bleed dmg compared with only mangle applied.
Rascall Retribution/Holy
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
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Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
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Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
Re: Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
Trauma & Mangle(Cat)/Mangle (Bear) both provide the same debuff.
So if Trauma is providing a lower increase than Mangle it might be because the talent is bugged, this would need testing to confirm.
Unless ofc the warrior only had 1/2 of Trauma talented(rank 1 only gives 15% increase).
So if Trauma is providing a lower increase than Mangle it might be because the talent is bugged, this would need testing to confirm.
Unless ofc the warrior only had 1/2 of Trauma talented(rank 1 only gives 15% increase).
- freehall2002
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Re: Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
if warr apply trauma first and kitty apply 2nd then trauma get overwritten by kitty mangle and vice versa don't think so its bugged.
Re: Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
The point is that with arms presence in raid cat should not be applying mangle at all since it is wasting 1 combo point that could be spent on other abilities thus giving cat more dps...But since both specs can occur in raid some ferals claim that arms´ trauma lowers their bleed dmg. So either it´s a hoax or trauma talent is indeed bugged.
Rascall Retribution/Holy
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
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Re: Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
I am not sure, but I think the "strongest buff" rule should apply like Talented BoM (500 ap + bonus) vs Normal BoM (500 ap) does. (BoM = blessing of might)
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Re: Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
This buff/debuff strength check mechanic is currently bugged on TW, so the 15% version of Trauma from a warrior can overwrite the 30% version of Mangle from a cat/bear.Justicelight wrote:I am not sure, but I think the "strongest buff" rule should apply like Talented BoM (500 ap + bonus) vs Normal BoM (500 ap) does. (BoM = blessing of might)
But that's not the issue here.
Rascall can you please check if the warriors in question had Trauma fully talented or only had 1 rank of the talent.
Cos if they did have it fully talented and the bleed damage drops while its up vs when Mangle is up, then Trauma itself is bugged and needs to be fixed.
Re: Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
It´s 2/2 talent. hence fully talented
Rascall Retribution/Holy
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
Rascallus Blood (tank)/Unholy (DPS)
Rascalluz Affliction/Demonology
Rascalles Feral (bear)/Balance
Rascallez Assassination
Rascallis Arms (DPS)/Arms (tank)
Razcall Marksmanship/Survival
Razcallus Fury/Protection
Razcalluz Feral (cat)/Restoration
Razcalles Combat/Subtlety
Razcaellez Beast Mastery
Razcaell Discipline/Holy
Razcaelllus Enhancement/Restoration
Razcaelluz Blood (DPS)/Frost (tank)
Razcaelles Elemental/Spellhance
Razcaellez Arcane/Frostfire
Rascaell Protection
Rascaellus Frost (DPS)/Unholy (tank)
Rascaelluz Fire/Frost
Rascaelles Shadow
Rascaellez Destruction
...and more...
Re: Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
I don't mind buffing warriors if this is bugged.
Re: Arms´ Trauma vs. Feral´s Mangle
So all we need to do is check if the talent is bugged, and report it.Rascall wrote:It´s 2/2 talent. hence fully talented
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