Suggestion to help with faction balance

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Suggestion to help with faction balance

#1 » Post by Ragnorak » 26 Jun 2015 16:27

Ok as many of you people know the faction balance situation is very bad atm. But to be honest we can't say that no one saw this coming. This faction imbalance has been evident for years on end now and there seems to be little we can do to completely balance it. Whether it be the vastly one sided RBGs, or the monopolizing of all the realm firsts; the factions are not equal in terms of population, pve achievements, and pvp prowess. As many of you can already guess I am clearly talking about the Horde's severe inferiority compared to the Alliance.

As a long time Horde member, I along with the majority of my faction are tired of this imbalance. The allies stomp us completely in RBGs, currently boasting an 80% win rate over us, and the ones where the Horde is able to win is solely due to the fact that we have to use all the bug abuses we know and DDoS the ally healers. You know your faction has hit an all-time low when during the 2 minute BG prep time you have to assign a Designated DDoSer and pray that the Anti-Cheat system doesn't catch us. I can't tell you how sick I am of seeing 3k GS hordies queuing whilst using completely unviable specs... Have you ever seen a Priest with 23/23/25 talents and calls himself a "new generation hybrid carry"? Well I have. I'm also tired of the fact that half of the horde RBG population doesn't fucking speak english. I mean, in world chat it's all fine and dandy, but then out of nowhere you join RBG and it's like you just joined a chatroom for the mexican drug cartel.

And as if getting stomped all over the place in PvP wasn't bad enough just to add insult to injury, the Horde is getting completely wrecked in the PvE department as well. With the alliance basically sweeping up all the realm firsts there was little we could do to compete. The only realm first we were able to get was when the GMs felt bad for us and crashed the server to help us secure it.

Now with all the hordies transfering over to the alliance just so they can get free LK25HC kills, it has become almost impossible to gather enough capable people to get past PP. And with all this overwhelming evidence I feel it is more than safe to say that changes have to be made to bring balance to the horde. And the best suggestion I have is to make it free to transfer from Alliance to Horde, and hopefully this will entice people to join the horde.
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#2 » Post by gann » 26 Jun 2015 16:37

im done queueing BGs, kniteknite and branhos always two-man then entire horde team
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#3 » Post by wica » 26 Jun 2015 17:08

This is unacceptable. Something need to be done, and it needs to be done soon. Only reason we were able to get those few realm firsts is due to abuses we have used.
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#4 » Post by Myaoming » 26 Jun 2015 17:10

Ragnorak wrote:Ok as many of you people know the faction balance situation is very bad atm. But to be honest we can't say that no one saw this coming. This faction imbalance has been evident for years on end now and there seems to be little we can do to completely balance it. Whether it be the vastly one sided RBGs, or the monopolizing of all the realm firsts; the factions are not equal in terms of population, pve achievements, and pvp prowess. As many of you can already guess I am clearly talking about the Horde's severe inferiority compared to the Alliance.

As a long time Horde member, I along with the majority of my faction are tired of this imbalance. The allies stomp us completely in RBGs, currently boasting an 80% win rate over us, and the ones where the Horde is able to win is solely due to the fact that we have to use all the bug abuses we know and DDoS the ally healers. You know your faction has hit an all-time low when during the 2 minute BG prep time you have to assign a Designated DDoSer and pray that the Anti-Cheat system doesn't catch us. I can't tell you how sick I am of seeing 3k GS hordies queuing whilst using completely unviable specs... Have you ever seen a Priest with 23/23/25 talents and calls himself a "new generation hybrid carry"? Well I have. I'm also tired of the fact that half of the horde RBG population doesn't fucking speak english. I mean, in world chat it's all fine and dandy, but then out of nowhere you join RBG and it's like you just joined a chatroom for the mexican drug cartel.

And as if getting stomped all over the place in PvP wasn't bad enough just to add insult to injury, the Horde is getting completely wrecked in the PvE department as well. With the alliance basically sweeping up all the realm firsts there was little we could do to compete. The only realm first we were able to get was when the GMs felt bad for us and crashed the server to help us secure it.

Now with all the hordies transfering over to the alliance just so they can get free LK25HC kills, it has become almost impossible to gather enough capable people to get past PP. And with all this overwhelming evidence I feel it is more than safe to say that changes have to be made to bring balance to the horde. And the best suggestion I have is to make it free to transfer from Alliance to Horde, and hopefully this will entice people to join the horde.
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#5 » Post by Dysphoria » 26 Jun 2015 17:12

Is this qq or what ? Aliance never dominated us unless they have 4+healers 4 SMers and 2 huntards in zerg based BG like wsg ....
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#6 » Post by benzviliran » 26 Jun 2015 17:16

I'm also tired of the fact that half of the horde RBG population doesn't fucking speak english. I mean, in world chat it's all fine and dandy, but then out of nowhere you join RBG and it's like you just joined a chatroom for the mexican drug cartel.

that part is so true, i did today several rbgs and paladins and rogues and mages with 14k-22k hp joined the rbg and they didnt even speak english and all their names were mexican names, elcapo belente etc, a rogue with 14k hp was really amazing but its not 1 its 4-6 sometimes more all of them 14k-22k hp at the same battleground.

but the worst part is that they dont talk english and they say something in spanish or doesnt speak at all.also many of them dont want to die so after they die they get out of spirit healer and stay as ghosts so and go afk.ok you want gear than why not get the minimum gear first, some of them didnt have cloak boots rings and trinkets it was just empty, ok you are a new 80 and you want gear so you join rbgs i dont blame you but atleast get the minimum gear or atleast dont go afk, and if you are a rogue than you dont have to have a high gs to be helpful just sap well and you did enough. but no they dont even use their class good and they die and than afk as ghost and when you ask all your team to report them away they jump as ghost or say "no" and if its finally someone who speak english than he will most likely to throw insults on you and move so he wont get the flag as away, and also when you are at the same group with 6 people who doesnt speak english and you want to report someone away they dont do that cause they cant speak english.
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#7 » Post by Liqueur » 26 Jun 2015 17:37

Let's not even mention achievement hunting, I mean, it's absolutely impossible on horde. Many of us left our faction and went alliance only for some Ulduar runs. They have all the special realm first kills in Ulduar too, the mounts you get from collective achievements etc. You can't do any of that over here, there isn't any interest or people just suck and can't get the harder achievements done. It's a shame. Even the people who tried leading them gave up, so now we have no one to lead any such raids anymore.
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Liqueur ~ level 80 Blood Elf Paladin (PvE Ret/PvP Holy)
Caffeine ~ level 80 Undead Warrior (Fury/Prot)
Narcotic ~ level 80 Undead Priest (Disc/Shadow)
Megalomaniac ~ level 80 Orc Death Knight (UH DPS/Frost-Blood hybrid tank)
Lemuria ~ level 80 Troll Hunter (MM/BM)
Daisy ~ level 80 Tauren Druid (Balance/Resto)
Eszti ~ level 80 Human Warlock (Destro/Affli)
Gummybear ~ level 80 Blood Elf Paladin (Holy/Prot)
Lazy ~ level 80 Troll Rogue (Combat)
Foamy ~ level 80 Troll Priest (Holy/Shadow)
Bloodcow ~ level 80 Tauren Death Knight (Blood Tank/Blood DPS)
Neuroticfish ~ level 80 Night Elf Druid (Feral Cat/Bear)
Soilbleed ~ level 80 Orc Shaman (Enha/Resto)
Rottenmaiden ~ level 60 Undead Warlock

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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#8 » Post by marko1984 » 26 Jun 2015 17:41

Thats it... i'm transfering to Ally!
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#9 » Post by Myaoming » 26 Jun 2015 17:46

I'm not sure if Rag is trying to prove a point with this trolling (which in this case would be sarcasm), or if he's just trolling for the lolz of it.
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#10 » Post by chickenbutt » 26 Jun 2015 18:16

Nice ironic post Rag. That's a good one as well Noveria, had me rolling on the floor just now for about a full minute without recovery. This was pretty hilarious to read, GJ! :D

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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#11 » Post by Saddie » 26 Jun 2015 18:25

Rag's humour at its finest ^_^

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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#12 » Post by Vaen » 26 Jun 2015 19:01

2/10 you tried
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#13 » Post by cherno666 » 26 Jun 2015 20:17

he is trying to make a point but some people don't see it
Chernoo - lvl 80 MM Hunter (Main Char)
Eviltities - lvl 80 DK Tonk
Cherniggar - lvl 80 UH DK
Chernomoffo - lvl 80 Shadow Priest
Chernokingg - lvl 80 Disc Priest
Chernobull - lvl 80 Boomie/Feral Dps Druid
Chernomoo - lvl 80 Boomie/Resto Druid
Hollyboner - lvl 80 ProtHoly/Ret Paladin
Hollycherno - lvl 80 Prot/Holy Paladin
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Chernobylus - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
Evilsmile - lvl 80 Demo Warlock
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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#14 » Post by chickenbutt » 26 Jun 2015 21:32

Except, it's Noveria and you being completely oblivious to what's actually going on and has been going on for several years on this server now. Lol.
I'm surprised seeing someone with over 10 level 80s on this server not having any idea what the PvP scene has looked like for so long.. Alliance are not stomping BGs at the moment. They are winning more because of the faction imbalance changes, but Horde is still crushing. I don't think what Rag satirically described in his post will ever happen, honestly.

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Re: Suggestion to help with faction balance

#15 » Post by keez » 26 Jun 2015 21:36

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