Primal Best in Slot Project
Primal Best in Slot Project
The intent of this project is to create and keep up to date a list of items which are best in slot for each tier of content to educate new players to the server how they should itemize. We plan on creating a list of gear for each tier of content and for each class/spec. Note this list is heavily based on my opinions for this server and what knowledge I have about Vanilla. If you disagree or find a mistake, feel free to correct or add to the list.
Hopefully, you will use this guide to better understand the itemization differences of this server and your typical Vanilla Server.
DISCLAIMER: By definition "Best in Slot" means the best item that can be worn for that slot of gear. This means you should base your itemization on your gear set as a whole. The items listed out perform other items when compared in a vacuum.
Druid -
* Bear- Not Yet Implemented
* Cat - Not Yet Implemented
* Resto - Not Yet Implemented
* Balance - Not Yet Implemented
Hunter -
* Not Yet Implemented
Mage -
* Pre BiS added
* T1 - NYI
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Paladin -
* Holy - Not Yet Implemented
* Prot - Not Yet Implemented
* Ret - Not Yet Implemented
Priest -
* Shadow - Not Yet Implemented
* Disc/Holy - Not Yet Implemented
Rogue -
* Dagger - Not Yet Implemented
* Sword - Not Yet Implemented
Shaman -
* Enhance - Not Yet Implemented
* Elemental - Not Yet Implemented
Resto:
* Pre BiS added
* T1 added (Ony, MC, ZG, Azuregos, Kazzak)
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Warlock -
* Pre BiS added
* T1 - NYI
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Fury Warrior:
* Pre BiS added
* T1 - NYI
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Prot Warrior:
* Pre BiS added
* T1 - NYI
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Hopefully, you will use this guide to better understand the itemization differences of this server and your typical Vanilla Server.
DISCLAIMER: By definition "Best in Slot" means the best item that can be worn for that slot of gear. This means you should base your itemization on your gear set as a whole. The items listed out perform other items when compared in a vacuum.
Druid -
* Bear- Not Yet Implemented
* Cat - Not Yet Implemented
* Resto - Not Yet Implemented
* Balance - Not Yet Implemented
Hunter -
* Not Yet Implemented
Mage -
* Pre BiS added
* T1 - NYI
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Paladin -
* Holy - Not Yet Implemented
* Prot - Not Yet Implemented
* Ret - Not Yet Implemented
Priest -
* Shadow - Not Yet Implemented
* Disc/Holy - Not Yet Implemented
Rogue -
* Dagger - Not Yet Implemented
* Sword - Not Yet Implemented
Shaman -
* Enhance - Not Yet Implemented
* Elemental - Not Yet Implemented
Resto:
* Pre BiS added
* T1 added (Ony, MC, ZG, Azuregos, Kazzak)
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Warlock -
* Pre BiS added
* T1 - NYI
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Fury Warrior:
* Pre BiS added
* T1 - NYI
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
Prot Warrior:
* Pre BiS added
* T1 - NYI
* T2 - NYI
* T2.5 - NYI
* T3 - NYI
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- oooooooooolde
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Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
Great initiative, but horribly flawed dps warrior gear Wouldn't advise anybody to gear after this list.
As a 1h fury your first goal should be hitting the 8% hitcap. This is easily done with Lionheart/titanic leggings + 1 more randon hit from items, and ofc 3/3 precision.
Further stacking hit is effectively gimping yourself due to diminished return on hitrating and itemizing after AP/crit is worth more - especially considering raidbuffs stacking with these stats. Getting free hit from upgrades is nice, but should in no way be itemized so heavily as your list suggests.
Next up should be getting a decent MH. Preraid bis is probably Persuader, but as a general rule you will want a slow weapon with high damage.
Currently working on a video
As a 1h fury your first goal should be hitting the 8% hitcap. This is easily done with Lionheart/titanic leggings + 1 more randon hit from items, and ofc 3/3 precision.
Further stacking hit is effectively gimping yourself due to diminished return on hitrating and itemizing after AP/crit is worth more - especially considering raidbuffs stacking with these stats. Getting free hit from upgrades is nice, but should in no way be itemized so heavily as your list suggests.
Next up should be getting a decent MH. Preraid bis is probably Persuader, but as a general rule you will want a slow weapon with high damage.
Currently working on a video
Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
If you're only itemizing towards 8% hit, you'll be facing the crit cap with full consumes, raid, and world buffs. In addition, there isn't a true diminishing return on hit as there is with lets say something like dodge rating; dual wield white hit cap is 27%. Some item slots have no alternatives without hit at a pre raid level unless you want me to include PvP items. One can spec out of 3% hit if they feel like they are over capping hit.
Obviously, this guide isn't to be followed at your personal detriment. This is meant to give players a direction towards gearing when they would otherwise have none.
I do concede that want a slow weapon because of %AP Bonuses from a slower weapon and many abilities being based around weapon damage, but the formula for a weapons topend is based on its speed and item level which is why I've included Ebon Hand. Ironfoe could be included as well. Most of these items perform fairly similar to each other.
If you have suggestions for the list, please include them.
Obviously, this guide isn't to be followed at your personal detriment. This is meant to give players a direction towards gearing when they would otherwise have none.
I do concede that want a slow weapon because of %AP Bonuses from a slower weapon and many abilities being based around weapon damage, but the formula for a weapons topend is based on its speed and item level which is why I've included Ebon Hand. Ironfoe could be included as well. Most of these items perform fairly similar to each other.
If you have suggestions for the list, please include them.
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Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
I made a list for useful pre-raid hunter items in the hunter sub forum viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17088
It's not an 'Absolute Best Pre Raid Gear' list for reasons I stated in the post, but I tried to include all of the best drops and some reasonable alternatives.
You can pick and choose according to your spec, a specific encounter you're having trouble with or just your own preference etc.
Part of education is learning to think on your own, afterall
Can't deny that those lists will be useful for new people and future alts, though, so thanks for that! :]
It's not an 'Absolute Best Pre Raid Gear' list for reasons I stated in the post, but I tried to include all of the best drops and some reasonable alternatives.
You can pick and choose according to your spec, a specific encounter you're having trouble with or just your own preference etc.
Part of education is learning to think on your own, afterall
Can't deny that those lists will be useful for new people and future alts, though, so thanks for that! :]
Aka Funkelstein
Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
I plan on using your guide as a referenceDunkelstein wrote:I made a list for useful pre-raid hunter items in the hunter sub forum viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17088
It's not an 'Absolute Best Pre Raid Gear' list for reasons I stated in the post, but I tried to include all of the best drops and some reasonable alternatives.
You can pick and choose according to your spec, a specific encounter you're having trouble with or just your own preference etc.
Part of education is learning to think on your own, afterall
Can't deny that those lists will be useful for new people and future alts, though, so thanks for that! :]
Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
for druids, add feral and feral tank as two diff. They can use same gear but that would be bad for one or both. Not horrible but bad
Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
I added Cat, but I'll need info regarding what is decent for them when it comes to trinkets/procs. I haven't seen enough cat druids around to support a list for them. If you could show me some data (screenshots of damage breakdowns, etc) to support this list I would appreciate it.
Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
Quick fact: the D2 legs on your Warrior Tank list (the ones better than Deathbone legs) are not obtainable because Sothos & Jarien (strat live D2 bosses) don't spawn the loot chest atm (it's bugged or whatever). This goes for any other pieces as well that are from this D2 boss.
On another note, I'm thinking about contributing to this list as well... if you haven't started the one for rogues yet, that is.
On another note, I'm thinking about contributing to this list as well... if you haven't started the one for rogues yet, that is.
- Dunkelstein
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Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
No objections there, it was meant as a resource for exactly that ^^kurthos wrote:
I plan on using your guide as a reference
Aka Funkelstein
Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
Too bad nobody likes you.Relevant wrote:This post makes me like Kurthos again!
Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
Good work!
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Re: Primal Best in Slot Project
Moved to Off-TopicRelevant wrote:Everyone likes me! Except for Prime...Swaggerboyzar wrote:Too bad nobody likes you.Relevant wrote:This post makes me like Kurthos again!
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